Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Xanthe]

Feint: even more useless than some posts above me mention as Shadow Flare does what feint does, and does it better. The skill really needs to be re-worked. This isn't an idea thread, so I'll leave it at that.

Shadow Flare is only a 5% slow, while Feint is 20%. Shadow Flare's advantage is that it is a persistent AoE that isn't affected by reduced debuff duration. In situations where slow can actually be applied, Feint is much better for 1-2 adds.

[RachaelMarie22]

If they just took Feint off gcd we could weave it in like leg sweep..make it useful..bit of extra deeps + utility

[kyrios91]

If they just took Feint off gcd we could weave it in like leg sweep..make it useful..bit of extra deeps + utility

Lol ikr? Feint being off-GCD itself would be amazing if it does work on bosses. Slowing down cast times would make dodging much more easier and it will have the some worth as Dragon Kick's -10% INT debuff.

[seekified]

I think Feint's current 20 second duration on first use is a bit generous for that type of debuff - 5 seconds would be sufficient to slow down an AoE or reduce the heat on a tank long enough for healers to catch up while making sure that we're not constantly recasting it to keep mobs slowed (as we already have a lot of other DPS-related stuff to weave inbetween GCD moves).

I really don't want the job to be simplified by removing Power Surge and Ring of Thorns - the job should be complicated and rewarding to play, not a seven-skill mashfest like BLMs can be in some situations. I do agree that RoT and Doomspike cover each other's areas of usefulness a bit too well, but removing one of them completely seems excessive.

[Gh0st_Pr0digy]

I've been trying to work on my dragoon dps on a dummy when bored lately and I find myself struggling on tp before invigorate is back up. Is that normal? I hit the first invigorate at 460 tp and only have skill speed from liberator and astrum chest I believe

Also if any controller players could share their cross bar set up Id like to get ideas how I could maybe change mine. I have a problem switching between cross bars easily >.<

[Daweism]

I've been trying to work on my dragoon dps on a dummy when bored lately and I find myself struggling on tp before invigorate is back up. Is that normal? I hit the first invigorate at 460 tp and only have skill speed from liberator and astrum chest I believe

Also if any controller players could share their cross bar set up Id like to get ideas how I could maybe change mine. I have a problem switching between cross bars easily >.<

I can hit second invigorate @ 360 skillspeed without being TP starved.

[Dervy]

I can hit second invigorate @ 360 skillspeed without being TP starved.

But he/she's working with 414 Skill Speed minimum. Different ballgame.

And yes, that is completely normal. You'd only encounter that issue on Dummys.

[whiskeybravo]

Also if any controller players could share their cross bar set up Id like to get ideas how I could maybe change mine. I have a problem switching between cross bars easily >.<

Would be easier if I had pics handy, but the general idea I use is to have actions on the face buttons and off-GCDs on the d-pad buttons. I find doing it this way makes it easier to move for positionals/dodge AoEs while executing actions.

Main bar (Hotbar #2)

Left side (L2)

Square - Heavy Thrust
X - Impulse Drive
Circle - Disembowel
Triangle - Chaos Thrust
Left - Spineshatter
Down - Internal Release
Right - Blood for Blood
Up - Life Surge

Right Side (R2)

Square - True Thrust
X - Vorpal Thrust
Circle - Full Thrust
Triangle - Jump
Left - Power Surge
Down - Mercy Stroke
Right - Phlebotomize
Up - Leg Sweep

Expanded Hotbar (R2 + L2 and L2 + R2)

Square - Heavy Thrust
X - Ring of Thorns
Circle - Doomspike
Triangle - Dragonfire
Left - macro for Bloodbath, foresight, second wind, keen flurry, etc
Down - Invigorate
Right - Limit Break (on the L2 + R2 side Elusive Jump)
Up - Mantra (L2 + R2 side potions)
(I just copy both sides so it doesn't really matter which trigger I pull first it's same basic moves)

[rickyguo]

I've been trying to work on my dragoon dps on a dummy when bored lately and I find myself struggling on tp before invigorate is back up. Is that normal? I hit the first invigorate at 460 tp and only have skill speed from liberator and astrum chest I believe

Also if any controller players could share their cross bar set up Id like to get ideas how I could maybe change mine. I have a problem switching between cross bars easily >.<

ya I can't hit second invigorate with 46x skillspeed

[DenebPunkin]

I've been trying to work on my dragoon dps on a dummy when bored lately and I find myself struggling on tp before invigorate is back up. Is that normal? I hit the first invigorate at 460 tp and only have skill speed from liberator and astrum chest I believe

Also if any controller players could share their cross bar set up Id like to get ideas how I could maybe change mine. I have a problem switching between cross bars easily >.<

Do you have the shared hot cross bar option? Ill take a pic of my controller set-up I use. I use a PS3 controller on ma PC. With my setup I have access to 32 slots which is more then enouff to to access all your skills and then some.