Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Alenore]

With the hoopla going on with Novus, there will be debate in using materia to go either for 22 DET/44 CRT and 44 CRT/31 SS. I wonder which stat weight will be better for the Gae Bolg Novus and will either of them outweigh Liberator for BiS until the High Allagan Spear on T9.

Let's see.
Determination: .325
Crit: 0.204
Skill Speed: .178

22 Det / 44 Crit : 22 * 0.325 + 44 * 0.204 = 16.126
31 SS / 44 Crit : 31 * 0.178 + 44 * 0.204 = 14.494

Crit / Det will be the best choice.
Since both Liberator and Novus would have 22 Det, and 44 CRT > 44 SS, it makes Novus a better weapon than Liberator.

Good thing I didn't buy it!

[whiskeybravo]

I guess it's kinda of a silly question, but why only 31 skill speed? The cap for the secondary stat would be 44, same as crit. It may not be possible, but if it is:

44 SS / 44 Crit = 16.808 weight

[Cakey]

There's only a max of 75 points for the weapon and secondary stats I believe, if the scrolls are to be read how they are. Why wouldn't you go like.. 44 Determination/31 Crit Rate?

[whiskeybravo]

There's only a max of 75 points for the weapon and secondary stats I believe, if the scrolls are to be read how they are. Why wouldn't you go like.. 44 Determination/31 Crit Rate?

Because Determination has a heavier weight (or lower cap, however you want to look at it) than skill speed and critical hit and accuracy.

Looking at other i110 weapons though I see the 44/31 caps... I'm just saying, if you have to infuse the scrolls with materia, unless you can only put in a certain # of materia, then you should be able to get 44/44. It just depends on what limitations they've established.

Also.. The Book of Spades has 31 Determination, so 22 is not the cap.. If you can do 31 Det/31 Crit on GB Novus that would be slightly better that 22 Det/44 Crit

[whiskeybravo]

Unrelated to Novus weapons.. I was running t6 last night and happened to Jump while having a vine attached to me, it looked like the Jump broke the vine.. Has anyone else noticed that?

[Empressia]

the vines only break up if all targets affected run 180* at each others (disregarding distance traveled) , as for the topic, i would prefer det > crit due to the fact :

1. crit chance is capped to 25% or 623 crit which is unobtainable because the current patch only gives us DRGs 553 crit at maximum which is 20%
2. our FULL ALL OUT BURST ROTATION which gave us the HIGHEST DPS among other jobs, have a freaking LONG DOWNTIME
3. 1 det is 33% boost to main stat which ofc works ALL TIME 24/7

[ChaoticDarkGriever]

The Book of Spades has 31 Determination, so 22 is not the cap.. If you can do 31 Det/31 Crit on GB Novus that would be slightly better that 22 Det/44 Crit

Thanks for that info. Time to speedrun the hell out of Bray HM then. Expect inflation on Crit and Det materia for the next few days. Damn economy.

[Alenore]

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As much as I know, there's like a "primary" and a "secondary" stat.
For i110 weapons : the "primary" stats is capped at 44, or 0.7 times that value if det (30,8, rounded at 31) while the "secondary" is capped at 31, or 22 for Det.

For Novus, apparently when you infuse a materia, it only increases the counter by 1, not by the amount of your materia. Like, the first one you have to infuse is a grade I, you'll only have 1/44 and not 2/44.
I'd like to see a screenshot for det, if it goes up to 22 or 31. I'll probably know more whne i'll get these stupid inks (book 10! X_x)

So you can't make a 44/44 weapon, but you should be able to make a 31 det/31 crit. Unfortunately I feel like they won't give us the choice :<

[whiskeybravo]

Thanks for that info. Time to speedrun the hell out of Bray HM then. Expect inflation on Crit and Det materia for the next few days. Damn economy.

Det and Crit have been reasonably priced on our server, accuracy is what's been ridiculous. But yea, I'm sure everything will change with this new information.

Also, some people in my FC that have been playing since 1.0 and are somewhat "in-the-know" mentioned that it is in fact a 75 attribute cap.. With the first stat being 44 cap, secondary cap 31.. While information will slowly come out, I wonder if you could have 44 Det.. o.0

[PArcher]

I have a feeling very few people are going to get Novus weapons for a long while, unless all they do is grind Fates for Alexandrite (esp if you need to meld several grade-4 materia at <10% success rate, which may be what will happen).

High Allagan is still better than Novus (WD>ALL), so if you're close to or have cleared T9...probably shouldn't rush the quest...