Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Sygmaelle]

Im hittin 360 - 390 depending on how much I have to move in turn 8 (like gettin these super far away mines on the right side of the avatar automatically give a -10 dps straight) @ilvl95, honestly with ilvl110 weapon + half gear ilvl110 / crafted ilvl90 pentamelded you should be close to 380 - 410.

if you gotta catch the mines on right or left, the key is to get there after your gcd + auto attack are done, wait a bit on the mine spot while havin your back turned to the avatar so you re pushed back perfectly to continue dps. That and DFD should be up for 3 Dreads also

Otherwise. Wth is no briar tact in t6.

[Mardel]

Im hittin 360 - 390 depending on how much I have to move in turn 8 (like gettin these super far away mines on the right side of the avatar automatically give a -10 dps straight) @ilvl95, honestly with ilvl110 weapon + half gear ilvl110 / crafted ilvl90 pentamelded you should be close to 380 - 410.

if you gotta catch the mines on right or left, the key is to get there after your gcd + auto attack are done, wait a bit on the mine spot while havin your back turned to the avatar so you re pushed back perfectly to continue dps. That and DFD should be up for 3 Dreads also

Otherwise. Wth is no briar tact in t6.

Ya recently i did like 400 area on t8 with my gear. My group's strat is different where i have to pick up the allagan fielded person's tower job and sometimes grab the tether if need be.

No briar means you just run through the boss like slip stream.

[rickyguo]

I would like to know what the next best upgrade would be for my gear set. not totally sure where to go next currently working on T8 and we died to enrage at like 10%. cant really afford crafted so none of that. it might show wrong earring and ring so those are maiming allagan and striking allagan

I'd get the chest now to make up accuracy and then honestly, it's probably better to spam myth runs for gil to get a crafted helm and/or belt.

If you're dying to enrage, it's more of an execution issue rather than gear. If you're 2 tanking, your offtank needs to have dps accessories, your scholar needs to dps and you need to use stat pots and maybe potent poisoning pots.

390 seems pretty high with your gear. I don't think I was even hitting 390 on a dummy without the i110 spear. I did like 370 on the clear this week but I might be doing something wrong or not pushing dps that hard.

[Mardel]

I'd get the chest now to make up accuracy and then honestly, it's probably better to spam myth runs for gil to get a crafted helm and/or belt.

If you're dying to enrage, it's more of an execution issue rather than gear. If you're 2 tanking, your offtank needs to have dps accessories, your scholar needs to dps and you need to use stat pots and maybe potent poisoning pots.

390 seems pretty high with your gear. I don't think I was even hitting 390 on a dummy without the i110 spear. I did like 370 on the clear this week but I might be doing something wrong or not pushing dps that hard.

Everything you said is true and in terms of the numbers you're putting out on T8 it is pretty accurate. Everyone quoting high numbers stating "w/ i95" don't have the proper settings.

[Sygmaelle]

Hey depend, at ilvl95 you can have 493 accuracy with almost 460 crit and 453 det, well at least with what I use its what I have so its not that bad really. But yeah, Ricky is spot on

[juniglee]

Hello all,

Long time lurker of this thread, and Dragoon is one of my favourite non-tank classes to play (I main a tank).

For T8, I would most likely be going Dragoon, since my party will probably do the 1 tank/5 dps route. In terms of gearing, if Soldiery is not available to me, what are my options? How much should I push for crafted i90 gear? At the moment, my Dragoon is average iLevel 90, and the only ways I can think of to improve it at the moment is to get the Ribbon of Slaying, and to farm for the Mirror to upgrade my Wave Harpoon.

Thanks for the help!

[rickyguo]

Hello all,

Long time lurker of this thread, and Dragoon is one of my favourite non-tank classes to play (I main a tank).

Thanks for the help!

The i90 crafted gear are extremely good compared to the soldiery, due to the massive amount of skill speed in soldiery. If you have the gil, you can get full crafted left side with penta melds and you'll probably do better than full left side i100 weathered. The i90 crafted helm with the proper penta melds has more dps weight than both i110 pieces with about the same accuracy. If you want to upgrade, then you'll probably upgrade the helm first and then the belt since it's t9 I guess.

If you only need it for t8, then I don't know if I would spend a lot of gil on crafted gear seeing as the gains wouldn't really help that much for your clear. The dps check for t8 is pretty lax if you go 5 dps as long as you get mechanics right.

[enil]

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The only other option is possibly farm your Animus or optimise your current ilvl90 gear - most important is to reach the T8 accuracy cap.
Crafted is definitely the best option if you have the Gil, but if you are running 5DPS you should quite easily reach the 1680~ DPS requirement, I would suggest do T8 with your group a bit and don't commit to crafting until after your group has the mechanics and you know fairly certainly that DPS will be a problem.

[juniglee]

Thanks for the replies folks, I'll try it out for a while, before I commit to anything.

[Dervy]

Right, here it is. It's really long, so only read once you have 20-30 minutes spare, to actually understand what's going on. I basically break down the standard rotation and find the breaking point for it. That breaking point is "sort of" achievable, at which point we need another skill to fill the spot, or fracture.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxbE...5PUm1JYVU/edit

tl;dr, At 630 SS (or 485 SS + Fey Light), which is also 2.2222r Skill Speed according to Purostriders research, we now fit in 9 skills in the space of what we would've fit in 8, thus making us clip our dots if we continue our standard rotation. Introducing Fracture somewhere once we're at 2.2222r GDC fixes it entirely, and gives us a much bigger DPS bosst.

tl;dr;tl;dr, 8WS/20S = no fracture. 9WS/20S = yes fracture.