Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[EasymodeX]

I parsed 1 clean miss on Twintania last night with 471 acc. It was on a Disembowel and the preceding ID landed, as well as the SSD+CT right afterwards.

I also missed twice on Cad with my 445 acc set ... didn't notice that I forgot to change gear from when I was doing primal sells. Somehow I was pressing buttons fast enough to run out of TP right at the end of the 4 minute fight, too. I used my first invig slightly late (at 380-ish TP). Didn't realize I had gone through that much ...

[Crush3r07]

looks like we're back up in the 470's

[PArcher]

My group has only cleared t2 so far this week, but we saw the Maiming and Striking Earrings (Caster Head and Bracelets were the others); now both our DRG have both Earrings...too bad Titan's are better (now, to actually get them...)

Still no Gloves...and we're still down one set of pants too Hopefully we get the Ring and Head to drop form T4 this week...

[HaiHai]

Got mah Spear ^.^

Now if only the boots...

It's weird to me as well that people always say DRG gear drops in coil. My group never really seemed to see much other than the terrible belt and chest from turn 1. All of the good pieces, like the pants, gloves, ect, have only ever dropped once, and some accessories have never dropped at all in the months we have been doing coil. I guess rng gonna rng. We only ever seem to see caster dps and bard loot. Heck the first few times we killed Twin we only saw bows drop. Talk about irritating.

[JetBrooks]

Got mah Spear ^.^

Now if only the boots...

It's weird to me as well that people always say DRG gear drops in coil. My group never really seemed to see much other than the terrible belt and chest from turn 1. All of the good pieces, like the pants, gloves, ect, have only ever dropped once, and some accessories have never dropped at all in the months we have been doing coil. I guess rng gonna rng. We only ever seem to see caster dps and bard loot. Heck the first few times we killed Twin we only saw bows drop. Talk about irritating.

I think boots should drop before T5, because optimally... wouldn't you want the acc from Myth boots once you get the Allagan Spear? Seems like less contradictory loot should drop there. Oh well life is hard~

[HaiHai]

I think boots should drop before T5, because optimally... wouldn't you want the acc from Myth boots once you get the Allagan Spear? Seems like less contradictory loot should drop there. Oh well life is hard~

I mean I guess it depends on what pieces you have to play around with accuracy wise. If you have the proper pieces from other turns than accuracy shouldn't be an issue, and the Allagan boots are BiS for practically every set across all accuracy levels if I'm not mistaken. For example when I got the spear my set dropped to 470 acc, and with the boots it would drop slightly lower, but I have extra pieces like the Allagan gloves + Wyrm gloves to help around with accuracy changes.

[EasymodeX]

"I don't parse", but "my friend's brother's cousin" was in my group and told me outside of the game that my DPS on Titan EX is between 280-310. He also said that my DPS on Garuda EX was 250-280, and Ifrit at 300.

There is no meaningful disadvantage for melee on the extreme fights. The only arguable case is with Garuda re: WWs, and to be honest I don't even pay much attention to the mechanic. When I hop to the second add, I pop Keen Flurry and go to town. A 3.2k Wicked Wheel when I have 5k HP is not very relevant.

I mean, you're a non-BRD/SMN on a Titan fight. That's just the way it is.

Not sure what you're saying. Dragoons destroy Bards and Summoners on Titan. Well, DRGs beat virtually every class almost all the time on Titan. The only times a DRG may not "win" a Titan parse when they're competing with a Monk or BLM who are really good and can optimize the fight timing exceptionally well.

Bards and SMN can compete on Ifrit solely due to massive tab-dotting of nails. They do a decent job on Garuda because of tab-dotting adds as well as full uptime. In all 3 cases, a DRG should still match their DPS at worst. And in the case of Ifrit, the DRG should be tab-dotting as well (as long as the group's total DOT spam does not cause nail timing problems).

[Dervy]

"I don't parse", but "my friend's brother's cousin" was in my group and told me outside of the game that my DPS....

parsing fights? I have no idea what you are talking about, we don't do that here

Anyway. You guys seen the Leviathan Fight? you're basically facing him 24/7, like Demon Wall. Rip Chaos Thrust.

[Viridiana]

Anyway. You guys seen the Leviathan Fight? you're basically facing him 24/7, like Demon Wall. Rip Chaos Thrust.

I would take any footage posted by SE with a mountain of salt. Unless your group actually does tank Ifrit facing into the arena. . .

[AugustusSB]

There is no meaningful disadvantage for melee on the extreme fights. The only arguable case is with Garuda re: WWs, and to be honest I don't even pay much attention to the mechanic. When I hop to the second add, I pop Keen Flurry and go to town. A 3.2k Wicked Wheel when I have 5k HP is not very relevant.

Strongly disagree here, beat it with both PLD and DRG multiple times but this fight clearly favors ranged by a far amount.

Double wicked wheel has the chance to kill a i80 pld with rampart and sentinel up. In the tornado phase when you have to run across the tornados during the brown portion, you are telling me you can just stand there dpsing Suprana with both garuda/suprana in the small vicinity. Then when garuda jumps and you immediately have to get out of the way of that arrow dot move while also avoiding the spinys explosion in that tight of a space.

all avoided with range. horrible horrible fight but i deal with it ;p