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    CesarLongsword's Avatar
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    Cesar Longsword
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    My PLD always saves cover for 2nd earthshakers because thats when BFB is up, when BFB is up drg is easily pumping out 650 "instaneous dps"(is that what we call it?) , so it should be drg>mnk>nin>blm>war>smn if your pld is waiting to let your melee keep dpsing during BFB
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by CesarLongsword View Post
    My PLD always saves cover for 2nd earthshakers because thats when BFB is up, when BFB is up drg is easily pumping out 650 "instaneous dps"(is that what we call it?) , so it should be drg>mnk>nin>blm>war>smn if your pld is waiting to let your melee keep dpsing during BFB
    I'm actually curious who does more, an equally geared DRG or MNK under B4B. My money's still on MNK but you might have a point there.

    Quote Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven View Post
    What does that "weave next to the boss for Earthshakers" mean? The thing Aiuri is doing here? If so, I tried it. Either I'm really, really stupid or I have too much delay for it. I've been trying that for an entire evening and each time I could not do it without either messing timing up (puddle next to boss), or being slowed down by the puddle.

    It seems like I can only survive the puddle by avoiding any form of backtracking, let alone try DPSing, and it's kind of unnerving - especially considering that in phase 3 there's no chance for melees to be covered AND I can't spread the puddles too far either. Whenever I get Earthshaker my DPS plummets, and that's even if I don't die. I feel like I'm doing something wrong, and I kind of guess that Cover is just a temporary patch.

    The only thing I have managed is "predict" the mechanics thanks to the rotation, so for example I know that Heavy Thrust+Jump precedes the first Earth shaker and that my Phlebotomize after the second B4B is up occurs at the same time as the second Earth shaker symbol appearing over the head. But aside from knowing exactly what is going to happen, I still have no clue as to how I should manage it. I hate my latency.
    I haven't tried the weaving technique personally, I can't give you any advice or experience unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    I haven't tried the weaving technique personally, I can't give you any advice or experience unfortunately
    I can do it consistently, the timing is /very/ tight, it really just takes a lot of practice.

    I'd rather the BLM get covered than me, TBH, since I don't even lose Autoattacks while doing it, I keep yelling at my PLD to use it on the blm ( BONUS: our blm is kind of an idiot sometimes, at least if he gets covered he can forget manawall like usuall... )
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    I'm actually curious who does more, an equally geared DRG or MNK under B4B. My money's still on MNK but you might have a point there.
    DRG, no question. It's the only way DRG damage is remotely competitive.
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    Fionn Iolair
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    So is the original complete 'rotation' from page 1 still the most effective?

    HT-IR-ID-BFB-Dis-Sweep-CT-PS-Ph-Jump-TT-VT-LS-FT-HT-TT-VT-Sweep-FT-Ph-ID-Dis-CT-HT-TT-VT-Sweep-FT-Ph-Jump-TT-VT-FT

    Plus Mercy Stroke soon as the mob hits 20%.
    I've seen some of you testing out various combinations since the patch and I'm wondering if a new, improved, godly dps combo has been discovered.
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    Last edited by T2teddy; 02-16-2015 at 02:20 PM.

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    Avix Sunpuncher
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    The principals have remain largely untouched, but due to a few changes to CD's and some theorycrafting by members of this post a few tricks of the trade have popped up so to speak.

    This recent guide is pretty up to date: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...eview?sle=true
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