Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Aiurily]

It is very possible to do without Selene buff. You need to delay popping BFB until the GCD for CT is at about the 8 o'clock position then proceed to be diligent and mash away at all your other buttons so not to delay GCD any further. I can achieve this under no lag at about 332SS but under high latency encounters will require about 440ish

Edit: by no lag I mean dummy fights

assuming you mean 432 skillspeed, since 332 isn't achievable at level 50

the minimum to fit 2 full thrusts/phlebotomizes in bfb duration is 365 skill speed, and that's with a 0.1s~ tight timing and either a clipped gcd or perfectly timed bfb towards the end of gcd. if you always fit in ft or ph it ends up being 1.35 extra pps in your rotation or so, but that doesn't account for any possible sacrifices you'd have to make (stats, clipped gcds, etc)

on content that you can afford having selene, if you have her skillspeed buff going up 50% of the time, having excess skillspeed becomes less valuable because her skillspeed buff is more than enough to achieve the same results (2 ft/ph in one bfb), even at 0 skillspeed.

although it's not stopping me from doing 31det/22crit/22 skillspeed on my zodiac for fun (and because im poor)

as for if the gimmick is actually worth it, it just depends on how much you personally value skill speed as a stat other than for hitting an extra skill in bfb. i think it's worth it at the bare minimum of 365; but 420+ while sacrificing det or more crit than skillspeed probably isnt

[Vampyren]

the minimum to fit 2 full thrusts/phlebotomizes in bfb duration is 365 skill speed, and that's with a 0.1s~ tight timing and either a clipped gcd or perfectly timed bfb towards the end of gcd. if you always fit in ft or ph it ends up being 1.35 extra pps in your rotation or so, but that doesn't account for any possible sacrifices you'd have to make (stats, clipped gcds, etc)

This is sort of what I was looking for. 1.35 PPS increase is still an increase, but I suppose whether this is worth the stat tradeoff depends on how much skill speed you stack to achieve the 2 FT / Ph.

Upon further testing, it seems I am able to hit the cutoff point at around 381SS (2.46sec GCD) but was unable to achieve this at 370SS (2.47sec GCD) no matter how hard I spam those buttons. Are you able to achieve it with consistency at 365SS?

Even so, it's reassuring to know that I don't need as high of a skill speed value as I originally thought to stick with this rotation.