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  1. #3751
    Player
    Avatar de SpecialKK
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    dcembre 2013
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    172
    Character
    Kulit Kulitin
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Cuisinier Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par kyrios91 Voir le message
    Yup. The only way to make DRG's favorable as a DPS option alongside NIN and MNK with their lower DPS, IMO, is to make them tanky. Give them a boost to M.DEF so we're the "tanky DPS" Job that is always associated with DRGs in FF games. Because other than resilience to mechanics, we can never out DPS MNKs and NINs. If they do decide to buff up our damage, IMO it has to be at least +50 potency to either the ID combo or the FT combo. Though if we do became the most broken-ass OP mofo in Heavensward because all of the Dragoon-focused story, this pain is worth bearing until then.
    I don't think making DRG a "tanky" job is the answer, especially since 3.0 will introduce another tank to the game (one that is presumably more magic based compared to PLD/WAR).

    Personally, Personally, rather than an increase in the potency of the ID or FT combo, I instead want to see the PS + Jump to be more synchronized and be usable more often. I think being able to do a PS/Jump, Jump, PS/Jump within our rotation would be a better alternative.
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  2. #3752
    Player
    Avatar de xnonamex
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    aot 2013
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    Grindania
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    88
    Character
    Baltais Elfs
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par SpecialKK Voir le message
    I don't think making DRG a "tanky" job is the answer, especially since 3.0 will introduce another tank to the game (one that is presumably more magic based compared to PLD/WAR).

    Personally, Personally, rather than an increase in the potency of the ID or FT combo, I instead want to see the PS + Jump to be more synchronized and be usable more often. I think being able to do a PS/Jump, Jump, PS/Jump within our rotation would be a better alternative.
    Imagine all the dead DRGs. frequency of jumps performed corelates into frequency of dead dragoons
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  3. #3753
    Player
    Avatar de Eardstapa
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    septembre 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
    Messages
    389
    Character
    Edward Volcdegen
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par pompey_dan Voir le message





    lol people are reading way too far into this guys post, 520 dps over 3 min isnt amazing, his crit rate for his 2 highest damage skills were 67% and 50%...
    With a few tries to get that high a crit rate on our most potent skills we could easily do alot more on a dummy over 3 min
    People look at the 3 minutes since it is usually what happens before boss mechanics... Would be interesting to see what Dragoons pump out. Mind showing us?
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  4. #3754
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    Avatar de CesarLongsword
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    juin 2014
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    20
    Character
    Cesar Longsword
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 50

    Lack of SS

    I have been looking over 2.4 BiS, am i the only one slightly concerned that the complete lack of ss will actually mess up our rotations/ lower dps. i have never been a fan of ss but 341 ss is low as hell...
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  5. #3755
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    Avatar de rickyguo
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    dcembre 2013
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    242
    Character
    Yan Dere
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Maître d'hast Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Eardstapa Voir le message
    People look at the 3 minutes since it is usually what happens before boss mechanics... Would be interesting to see what Dragoons pump out. Mind showing us?
    I did one try with party buff no food no pots like he did and ended up at 500.

    but I'm i113 with 3 pieces of crafted
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  6. #3756
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    Avatar de Remilia_Nightfall
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    aot 2013
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    830
    Character
    Reimu Hakurei
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Ok I haven't read all the pages here, but did anyone mention that DRG can offer a 10% damage buff to bards?

    IMHO that 10% should be taken into account and added to the DRG total dps before comparing it to NIN and MNK.
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  7. #3757
    Player
    Avatar de Flyinmunky
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    septembre 2012
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    Gridania
    Messages
    11
    Character
    Kira Tempest
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 90
    Hi guys,

    I jus recently started playing again after a very long time. Last thing i did was beat Titan hm, Looking for a very basic outline, whats the best things i should be doing to get ilvl up and progress main story etc...

    I have been running Syrcus Tower and got Guardians armguards. Should i just keep running that for the other drg drops and spend the tomes on upgrading my accessories?

    Seems every time i do it someone new hasnt done it before so getting the bonus 50 tomes aswel.

    I have Relic Zenith but reading on the upgrade path seems id be better off focusing my time on other things.

    My current gear http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/3339178
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    Dernière modification de Flyinmunky, 03/11/2014 à 02h20

  8. #3758
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    Avatar de SeraviEdalborez
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    mars 2011
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    1 558
    Character
    Seravi Edalborez
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Remilia_Nightfall Voir le message
    Ok I haven't read all the pages here, but did anyone mention that DRG can offer a 10% damage buff to bards?

    IMHO that 10% should be taken into account and added to the DRG total dps before comparing it to NIN and MNK.
    Yes, and MNK will still usually beat DRG+1brd's Disembowel buff.
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    XI: Zeroblade, Titan Server

  9. #3759
    Player
    Avatar de Remilia_Nightfall
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    aot 2013
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    830
    Character
    Reimu Hakurei
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par SeraviEdalborez Voir le message
    Yes, and MNK will still usually beat DRG+1brd's Disembowel buff.
    I am not debating that. I am just stating that DRG effective dps is a bit higher than what it shows.
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  10. #3760
    Player
    Avatar de LordMaitreya
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    aot 2013
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    91
    Character
    Jsun El
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 70
    Buffing bards is no excuse. The three melee dps should be within 1% of each other dps wise.

    Picking one over another should be no different than picking a flavor of icecream.
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