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    Oh yea.. I had a question..

    Is there any viability to dual-Dragoon setup where, similar to dual-Monk, one DRG could stay on Disembowel duty, while the other spams HT-Ph-TTT and stuff?

    I was running ST, and there was another DRG with W. Lib and all Astrum gear (except GEX ring), and was generally ahead of me on threat before I just started the TTT above. I dunno, just a thought I had, wondered if anyone had experimented with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Oh yea.. I had a question..

    Is there any viability to dual-Dragoon setup where, similar to dual-Monk, one DRG could stay on Disembowel duty, while the other spams HT-Ph-TTT and stuff?
    ID-DE-CT is 180+220+500=900 over 3 GCDs, or 300/GCD. TTT is 150-200-330=680 over 3 GCDs, or just shy of 227/GCD. Even subtracting out the DE buff from the dot portion of CT, the CT combo should still pull ahead, I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    ID-DE-CT is 180+220+500=900 over 3 GCDs, or 300/GCD. TTT is 150-200-330=680 over 3 GCDs, or just shy of 227/GCD. Even subtracting out the DE buff from the dot portion of CT, the CT combo should still pull ahead, I would think.
    I know the potency of the CT is strong, but it also takes time to tick out.. How many more TTT's can fit into that timeframe.. I'll gonna try to simulate the scenario when I get some time.. Just wanted to see if anyone else has tried to see how it works.

    And, ideally, you wouldnt lose the Dis debuff, because the other dragoon would be on normal rotation keeping it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I know the potency of the CT is strong, but it also takes time to tick out.. How many more TTT's can fit into that timeframe.. I'll gonna try to simulate the scenario when I get some time.. Just wanted to see if anyone else has tried to see how it works.
    30 seconds is enough for 4 full combos (ignoring HT for the moment)? So that's 900+(680*4)=3620, which is still more than 680*5=3400. Actual difference gets bigger when you add HT back in, then slightly smaller when you add in the DE buff. Still comes out on the CT side, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I know the potency of the CT is strong, but it also takes time to tick out.. How many more TTT's can fit into that timeframe.. I'll gonna try to simulate the scenario when I get some time.. Just wanted to see if anyone else has tried to see how it works.
    The only time you should ever not refresh your IDC is if IDC is going to be the last combo to hit the mob, because you won't get the DOT damage from IDC anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I know the potency of the CT is strong, but it also takes time to tick out.. How many more TTT's can fit into that timeframe.
    If you open with the HT > I-D-CT > Ph rotation, it will last for a set of TT > VT > FT > HT > TT > VT > FT > Ph > ID > Dis with CT exactly ends at 0. (With around 367-410 SSpd)
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    Nope... According to my maths, after 48 moves the standard combo puts out about 800 or so more potency. (11950 vs 11100)

    Case solved

    I guess it works well for Monks because of the crit Bootshine?
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