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    rickyguo's Avatar
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    Yan Dere
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Avy4576 View Post
    Oh and before I forget the reason that Palmtop has a total time of 10 minutes and 11 seconds is due to the fact that he buffs everyone before the encounter starts.
    I decided to post again cause there's a lot of flaming and misinformation here.

    First of all, ACT records at the first instance of damage aka the pull. Look through your t6-t8 parses, your tank that pulled will have the highest encounter time unless someone else pulled. The only reason one of your healers can have a higher encounter time, is if they pulled or your parse is merged at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avy4576 View Post
    You're an idiot I'm stating that he was in the battle for 9 min and 22 seconds not that he was fighting for 9 min and 22 seconds. That time includes any downtime that we incur.
    The parse you shown had a total raid dps of 1717.16, unless I made a mistake adding somewhere. You can check your self by clicking on the encounter. I just added it up.

    Here is one of some other group of people with total raid dps of 1773, http://puu.sh/aaiWa/f168d001b9.png

    You can notice that it's merged with a total encounter time of 9:31 seconds. What you are telling people right now is that your group manages to kill the same boss like 1 minute faster than a group with a higher total dps since theirs is merged and yours is apparently not.

    In comparison, bluegarter kills it in like 10:15 or something.

    Some people merge their t9 parse and some run it continuously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    That was by far not our best run either, I just wanted to show you even on a bad run i do more than 330 the other guy was speaking of. I would give constructive feedback If as soon as i told my numbers i was instantly doubted. I only posted on this forum to let someone know that Dragoons can be the best in ever turn of coil, and to let someone that is mis informed know that mnk+bard is not better than drg+bard. Yes monk is 8% more damage, but if you know anything about mmos math doesnt apply in PVE, its all about the player behind that class(with the exception of t8 if no mechanics are involved). Anyways good luck happy raiding.
    Math absolutely applies. You're using inductive arguments over deductive ones. You agree that monk is 8% more damage, and that bards get 7% more damage from disembowel. It then follows that mnk+bard would lead to a higher dps than drg+bard. This doesn't even count the base damage difference between DRGs and BRDs. This is more valid than the inductive argument that, since the bard and I(aka the dragoon) do more damage than the monk and the bards I know, then it must follow that drg+bard is better than monk+bard.

    When you're talking about dragoons or a class in general being the best at certain content, you have to assume you're competing against a player that's maxing damage to the same extent. A great scholar can probably dutyfinder titan hm and do more dps than everyone there, does it follow then that scholars is the best dps in titan hm?

    I absolutely agree that a DRG can do the best dps in every turn of coil, but that depends on running with people that are less geared or doing things sub-optimally.
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    Last edited by rickyguo; 07-14-2014 at 11:52 AM.

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