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    Hmmm does it REALLY, REALLY matter if I use LS+FT and/or PS+Jump without B4B, and should I just hold them until B4B is up? Because I do the exact rotation in this guide but I open with B4B instead of IR since logically you want the longer buff to get up first.
    With my rotation / current 367 SSpd (2.47 GCD), when my PS and LS are all up B4B is still on cd for +/- an full TT>VT>FT rotation (Which is like, 7.5 seconds). So with an "always use LS / PS with B4B up" mindset I always wait until B4B is up. But I guess some advice from more experienced DRGs can help me clarify this. Thanks!
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyrios91 View Post
    Hmmm does it REALLY, REALLY matter if I use LS+FT and/or PS+Jump without B4B, and should I just hold them until B4B is up? Because I do the exact rotation in this guide but I open with B4B instead of IR since logically you want the longer buff to get up first.
    With my rotation / current 367 SSpd (2.47 GCD), when my PS and LS are all up B4B is still on cd for +/- an full TT>VT>FT rotation (Which is like, 7.5 seconds). So with an "always use LS / PS with B4B up" mindset I always wait until B4B is up. But I guess some advice from more experienced DRGs can help me clarify this. Thanks!
    It's just something to keep in mind, it's really just about getting familiar with each fight and adjusting the rotation accordingly. Little things like in T5 conflag phase, you can hit HT when she turns on someone for fireball, then IDC-Pleb Twin, Impulse Twin/Dis Conflag. It's not the "proper rotation", it's adjusting the rotation to fit the mechanics. I don't think Skill Speed is your problem, I can get up to 490 sksp and it doesn't affect the rotation that much. You definitely don't want to be standing there, doing nothing, while you wait for buffs. If you find an off-GCD like within a few seconds of being able to be used, see if there is a Phleb or IDC chain that needs to be refreshed, or if you can fill with a TTT then do so.

    Side note: Woot 300 stronk!
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    It's just something to keep in mind, it's really just about getting familiar with each fight and adjusting the rotation accordingly. You definitely don't want to be standing there, doing nothing, while you wait for buffs.
    Exactly. Another prime example is in T8, just before the Dreads spawn (at least for me) there is time for a single ability on the Avatar before you start your IDC combo. I was filling with Fracture, but decided for TP's sake to just go double Impulse Drive so Disembowel is ready to stick on the Dread just as it runs through me.
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    Just wanted to give a page 300 shoutout to all the Dragoons that post in the thread helping everyone out with their questions. It warms my heart to see a Dragoon community that is so understanding and supportive of new players.

    Thanks guys! You're all shiny and amazing and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Just wanted to give a page 300 shoutout to all the Dragoons that post in the thread helping everyone out with their questions. It warms my heart to see a Dragoon community that is so understanding and supportive of new players.

    Thanks guys! You're all shiny and amazing and stuff.
    Honestly, to all the dragoons:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Just wanted to give a page 300 shoutout to all the Dragoons that post in the thread helping everyone out with their questions. It warms my heart to see a Dragoon community that is so understanding and supportive of new players.

    Thanks guys! You're all shiny and amazing and stuff.
    A lot of people rag on DRGs as being the "lol melee" class that all the baddies flock to.. while I'm not here to argue for or against this statement, I do not see any other class which has a vault of information for there class such as we have for DRG.
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