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    Quote Originally Posted by VaShawn View Post
    Hey ayvar, which is most up to date and more damaging. The YouTube video showing rotations or your initial post here? I wanna use that "second" rotation you displayed in YouTube using BFB right after HT. Or can I stick with the final form you have in the forum which has IR after HT instead.
    Which video are you talking about? Cause if it were some British guy talking, that was myself and not Ayvar. I can give you an explanation as to why I use HT -> BFB -> ID -> IR, rather than what's posted in this thread, HT -> IR -> ID -> BFB.

    It's so the IR hangs on after the last Full Thrust so I can end it with a potential DFD or an SP critical hit. After full thrust, you still will have a HT + BFB + IR buff this way, and you could potentially crit for 900+ with DFD. I'd take an extra 900 damage thank you very much :P. That's just me putting my twist onto how to manage the cool downs/buffs. The rotation posted here is just as effective as mine, with no difference in damage what so ever up until the Full Thrust. And yes, if it's a 2.2 guide you were watching, it's up to date ^_^

    As long as you're using the H IDC P TTT Rotation, and weaving your skills in between your abilities, you'll be maximising the DPS of your dragoon.

    Also, only ever use fracture in fights like Titan, if you think it's needed. Chuck it out, and replace it with Mercy Stroke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
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    Dervy? Wait a sec.. Your video helped me learn the Garuda EX fight as DRG!! Thank you!

    @VaShawn - yea you will find that most of us use a slightly a different rotation for the off GCD abilities. I use mine in a certain order that I've gotten used to due to playing on controller. Regarding B4B and IR specifically, I just try to maximize uptime, so IR is ticks in full while under B4B, and I delay using until after Impulse Drive so both IR and B4B tick in full under Disembowel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Dervy? Wait a sec.. Your video helped me learn the Garuda EX fight as DRG!! Thank you!

    @VaShawn - yea you will find that most of us use a slightly a different rotation for the off GCD abilities. I use mine in a certain order that I've gotten used to due to playing on controller. Regarding B4B and IR specifically, I just try to maximize uptime, so IR is ticks in full while under B4B, and I delay using until after Impulse Drive so both IR and B4B tick in full under Disembowel.

    Yah, Ima add an "extras tip" for Garuda EX later. There's a much better method, but it involves communication between yourself and the tanks.

    Sadly, my gaming rig is blown up so I can't do anything at all for a while. RIP in pieces. Also, that is how I used to run my Dragoon. I used to stack BFB + IR together right under Disembowl (first rotation I posted in that video VaShawn was talking about). I use both depending on the situation.

    Example, if we're doing titan EX, and run in for the HT, and he turns around and landslides, his rear is near the tank, so I'd halt using any buffs and get the ID going off, then stack the buffs. This way, I'm not wasting any DPS, or time on the HT, or reapplying the HT. Don't wanna be #2 on DPS bro, lol :P

    Quote Originally Posted by SasakiNori View Post
    Anyone knows if the flank/rear acc numbers apply to bards as well?
    Not a clue. If you want to check quickly, go to the Lv. 50 Dummies up in the North Western town in Coerthas (forgot the name) and run 341 accuracy. Go to the flank of the dummies and start attacking. (The rear of the dummies is facing the wall). If you do not miss after around 300 hits, go to the front. If you miss once after 300 hits, it's safe to say front/flank/rear accuracy affects Bards, which could also affect SMN and BLMs.

    Currently, works for Dragoons, Warriors and Monks.
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