Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[EasymodeX]

Strongly disagree here, beat it with both PLD and DRG multiple times but this fight clearly favors ranged by a far amount.

Double wicked wheel has the chance to kill a i80 pld with rampart and sentinel up.

I've never seen the double. From what I understand it occurs in the 20 seconds before Chirada is dead and we switch to Suparna. Sometimes when I look over at the start the MT is dancing, so I assume that's them dodging the rain/double WW combo and stuff.

The fight does favor ranged, but it favors them about as much as any fight in the game favors range (except Titan EX).

ADS2 is persistently more annoying to deal with (hell, Twintania Dreadknights are more annoying to deal with) than Garuda EX once you adjust to it.

In the tornado phase when you have to run across the tornados during the brown portion, you are telling me you can just stand there dpsing Suprana with both garuda/suprana in the small vicinity.

Yes. I just make sure to avoid slipstream/downburst which is predictable because it's facing the tank. So I don't stand where the tank is. I also pay attention to spiny transition so I don't stand where the tank runs towards the center to taunt the spiny.

Then when garuda jumps and you immediately have to get out of the way of that arrow dot move while also avoiding the spinys explosion in that tight of a space.

Actually one trick there I learned is that the cyclones basically deactivate at that point (or there is like a 99.9% chance that they are not 'exploding' when the transition happens). So, I just hit the spiny once as I run away towards the center even if the cyclone animation is up. Never get hit by the rain.

[AugustusSB]

If you run 5 very good dps with 1 heal you can run into it if you jump to Suprana after finishing Chirada.

Yes. I just make sure to avoid slipstream/downburst which is predictable because it's facing the tank. So I don't stand where the tank is. I also pay attention to spiny transition so I don't stand where the tank runs towards the center to taunt the spiny.

Downburst and Slipstream are very easy to avoid I agree, Wicked Wheel is impossible in that phase while doing any meaningful dps on Suprana/Garuda during tornados.

Actually one trick there I learned is that the cyclones basically deactivate at that point (or there is like a 99.9% chance that they are not 'exploding' when the transition happens). So, I just hit the spiny once as I run away towards the center even if the cyclone animation is up. Never get hit by the rain.

This is the clincher for me, I just don't know when to predict Garudas Jump and we always kill the spiny almost instantly and I do not have enough time to avoid moving into a tornado/moving out of spiny explosion/moving out of feather/arrow rain (w/e its called).

[Mardel]

You know you can run into the tornado and not take damage once garuda jumps and you have killed the spiny right? (Run into it and run out into the safety spiny circle)