Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[kaethe]

For those with high ilv gears (85-90) and not caring about acc, how's your dps on extreme primals? There seems to be a lot of downtime and most of the other class of equivalent ilv gears outdps me (based in order of emnity). Is this supposed to be the case?

[Ayvar]

For those with high ilv gears (85-90) and not caring about acc, what's your dps parse on extreme primals? There seems to be a lot of downtime and I usually only do around 200-220dps . Would like to know if others are facing the same issues

parsing fights? I have no idea what you are talking about, we don't do that here

[JetBrooks]

For those with high ilv gears (85-90) and not caring about acc, what's your dps parse on extreme primals? There seems to be a lot of downtime and I usually only do around 200-220dps . Would like to know if others are facing the same issues

If you survive, good enough XD I have a hard enough time finding people who can do just that.

[kaethe]

allow me to rephase :

For those with high ilv gears (85-90) and not caring about acc, how's your dps on extreme primals? There seems to be a lot of downtime and most of the other class of equivalent ilv gears seems to be dishing more dps output (based in order of emnity). Is this supposed to be the case?

[BrandoH]

allow me to rephase :

For those with high ilv gears (85-90) and not caring about acc, how's your dps on extreme primals? There seems to be a lot of downtime and most of the other class of equivalent ilv gears seems to be dishing more dps output (based in order of emnity). Is this supposed to be the case?

I mean, you're a non-BRD/SMN on a Titan fight. That's just the way it is.

[kaethe]

I mean, you're a non-BRD/SMN on a Titan fight. That's just the way it is.

can i assume it's the same for the other 2 primals and its an inherent problem for melees and not just DRG in particular?

not being competitive on dps, but just wondering if ive not been maximising DRG's potential


and what rotation do you guys use to break Ifrit's nails?

[EasymodeX]

and what rotation do you guys use to break Ifrit's nails?

1. Keep HT up.

2. If you are next to a double nail after HT (third nail phase), then chain ROT on both.

3. Use oGCDs.

4. Make sure to reserve DFD for a double nail (third phase).

5. Make sure to reserve SSD to move to the next nail.

6. Tab-Phlebotomize nails (second and third phases) clockwise*. When you run into the howling healer, turn around counter clockwise and get back with the DPS stack, using TTT on each nail. You should have 0 downtime because it takes less than 2.4x seconds to run from one nail to the next.

7. If using direct damage on double nails (third phase), use Doomspike.

8. Keep HT up.

Note: Both the PH spam and Doomspike will being to drain your TP hard. Don't blow it all and make sure you use Invigorate.

* When using this approach, you still want to nuke down the first nail to move the DPS stack and leave room for the healers. Start tabbing with PH on basically the third nail (nuke first nail, finish combo on second nail, but don't stick around, move to third nail and PH, then to fourth and continue). Be sure to continue to use oGCDs while moving and spamming PH.

[Eclips]

1. Keep HT up.
2. If you are next to a double nail after HT (third nail phase), then chain ROT on both.
3. Use oGCDs.
4. Make sure to reserve DFD for a double nail (third phase).
5. Make sure to reserve SSD to move to the next nail.
6. Tab-Phlebotomize nails (second and third phases) clockwise*. When you run into the howling healer, turn around counter clockwise and get back with the DPS stack, using TTT on each nail. You should have 0 downtime because it takes less than 2.4x seconds to run from one nail to the next.

7. If using direct damage on double nails (third phase), use Doomspike.

8. Keep HT up.

Note: Both the PH spam and Doomspike will being to drain your TP hard. Don't blow it all and make sure you use Invigorate.

* When using this approach, you still want to nuke down the first nail to move the DPS stack and leave room for the healers. Start tabbing with PH on basically the third nail (nuke first nail, finish combo on second nail, but don't stick around, move to third nail and PH, then to fourth and continue). Be sure to continue to use oGCDs while moving and spamming PH.

While this might seem good to maximize damage, I really don't see how this is a proper or even effective way to do the nails. I find that a simple impulse drive / disembowel combo / ocd abilities is generally the way to go. It helps control the healing / stacks for the fight.

I use IR / BFB at the start, then use them on cooldown until it comes close to the next nail phase. For the nail phases I use the BFB and Bloodbath to help maintain hp.

This strategy with decent dps generally allows us to kill all the nails (even the big one) without using limit break, and is much easier for the healers to manage because they're dying at the same pace.

I really can't imagine letting a dot tick out on any nail other than one near the tank (if you're chained and can't leave ifrit)


For reference: Ifrit as DRG i90 @ 436 accuracy // 227dps (22%) at the end of the fight