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    With the new gear the BiS gear does change, although this change is really minimal.

    Assuming weights are as follows:
    Statistic Weight
    Weapon Damage 7.540
    Strength 1.000
    Determination 0.220
    Critical Hit Rating 0.160
    Skill Speed 0.146

    The new BiS gives the following total weight when all attributes are added from armor alone, 618.176.
    The old BiS gear gave a total weight of the following: 618.092.

    This gives us a 0.01359% increase, really really negligible but here is the list anyway.

    Weapon: Relic+1
    Head: Allagan
    Body: Myth
    Hands: Allagan
    Legs: Allagan
    Feet: Allagan
    Waist: Myth
    Necklace: Allagan Striking
    Earring: Tremor
    Bracelet: Allagan Maiming
    Ring: Allagan Striking
    Ring2: Vortex

    This was calculated with an accuracy requirement of 470. I can calculate at any number if anybody wishes, just let me know. With this setup the differences from old BiS is as follows:
    -gain 8 points of determination
    -lose 5 points of critical hit
    -lose 6 points of skill speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    ...With the new gear the BiS gear does change, although this change is really minimal...
    Did you forget the Allagan Polearm buff?
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    Where the F is EMX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMaitreya View Post
    Where the F is EMX?
    I was temp banned from the forum until today because I replied to a topic about parsers. Pretty comical.


    Updated Stat Weights*:

    WD 8.027
    STRDEX 1
    DTR** 0.209
    CRT 0.179
    SS 0.158

    * Stat weights assessed against a baseline of: WD=46, STR=490, DTR=300, CRT=460, SS=50. If your stat is higher for whatever stat, your value will be lower. If your stat is lower, your value will be higher. No skew / manual bias included for or against DTR or SS.

    ** As always, no one really knows exactly how DTR works, so this number is flaky. Edit: DTR is probably in the 0.3 range.

    Item Budget Weights (DTR weight * 11, CRT and SS weights * 16, which are the equivalent numbers seen on various slots of gear):

    DTR 2.28
    CRT 2.86
    SS 2.55


    Based on the above weights***,

    *** Removed BiS list until damage formula is more finalized. In all likelihood DTR > CRT > SS.


    Top Rotations:

    H IDC P TTT H TTT
    P IDC H TTT P TTT

    TPS 27.6
    PPT 4.9
    PPS 135.6

    HP IDC TTT^

    TPS 27.6
    PPT 4.9
    PPS 133.8

    ^ This rotation clips CT excessively (4 ticks). If you used a buffed CT do yourself a favor and use the one below for 1 cycle before switching back to this simple one.

    HP IDC TTT
    HP TTT TTT

    TPS 27.6
    PPT 4.8
    PPS 132.3

    Other new (or old) rotations may get good due to the patch changes. Don't stop brainstorming.

    Note: Fracture is basically gone. Thrust combo has a higher potency per GCD even without the Disembowel debuff. Demon Wall is HP -> TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

    Sidenote: This means more Mantra/Bloodbath/whatever. I haven't used Bloodbath in awhile. Yippee.

    Other comment: None of the above includes any change to the base potency of Jump. The only impact a confirmation of the "250p Jump" would have is a fringe reduction to the value of SS in the weights. Like -0.005 stat weight or something. Very small.

    Updated spreadsheets / model (not entirely user-friendly): http://www.fileswap.com/dl/7KfkfUv6Hf/
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 01-02-2014 at 10:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post

    Based on the above weights***,

    T5 BiS (482 ACC):

    HQ Deviled Eggs

    Myth Belt
    Myth Boots
    EX Ifrit Bracelet Striking
    Myth Chest
    Myth Earring
    Allagan Gloves
    Myth Helm
    Myth Leggings
    Myth Necklace
    Allagan Ring Maiming
    EX Garuda Ring Striking
    Allagan Weapon

    hmm with the items you list above i'm showing a total accuracy bonus from gear alone to be 132 which would put us at 473 accuracy, not the quoted 482. Has there been any changes to any gear (not counting the new additions) besides the Allagan Earrings/Allagan Spear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    hmm with the items you list above i'm showing a total accuracy bonus from gear alone to be 132 which would put us at 473 accuracy, not the quoted 482. Has there been any changes to any gear (not counting the new additions) besides the Allagan Earrings/Allagan Spear?
    I'm assuming that means the 482 ACC is taking the HQ Deviled Eggs into account (otherwise, you'd be eating buttons).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    I'm assuming that means the 482 ACC is taking the HQ Deviled Eggs into account (otherwise, you'd be eating buttons).
    Ahh, you've cleared it up for me thanks, I did not factor that in. sorry i keep failing lol...gotta readjust my script then.
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    I didn't put that holy lance into my database, didn't think it would affect it, but i can recalculate with it included, will do it tomorrow though. still at work got out of a conference call where i got grilled to no end ha...oh man
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    I didn't put that holy lance into my database, didn't think it would affect it, but i can recalculate with it included, will do it tomorrow though. still at work got out of a conference call where i got grilled to no end ha...oh man
    They mean the new i95 Allagan Spear.
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    Last edited by Tilgung; 12-17-2013 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    The new BiS gives the following total weight when all attributes are added from armor alone, 618.176.
    The old BiS gear gave a total weight of the following: 618.092.

    This gives us a 0.01359% increase, really really negligible but here is the list anyway.

    Weapon: Relic+1
    Head: Allagan
    Body: Myth
    Hands: Allagan
    Legs: Allagan
    Feet: Allagan
    Waist: Myth
    Necklace: Allagan Striking
    Earring: Tremor
    Bracelet: Allagan Maiming
    Ring: Allagan Striking
    Ring2: Vortex
    Using Ayvar's list I could be wrong but i'm getting 628.862
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