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    Quote Originally Posted by Casterbridge View Post
    Most believe a monk has better single target damage than dragoon (not saying this is true or untrue just stating popular opinion I've seen) also the monk has slightly better usable utility.
    This couldn't be further from the truth. DRG is by far the best single target DPS uninterrupted. What lowers their DPS is the clunky endgame mechanics where you have to constantly dodge. Monks make up for it by the utility they provide to the raid. My group runs 2x DRG just for the insane damage output we can put out in coil. Also DRG utility shouldn't really even be considered 'utility' but 'synergy'. They synergize well with bards because of the obvious debuff they provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    This couldn't be further from the truth. DRG is by far the best single target DPS uninterrupted. What lowers their DPS is the clunky endgame mechanics where you have to constantly dodge. Monks make up for it by the utility they provide to the raid. My group runs 2x DRG just for the insane damage output we can put out in coil. Also DRG utility shouldn't really even be considered 'utility' but 'synergy'. They synergize well with bards because of the obvious debuff they provide.
    post video/log where you parse higher than mnk/smn uninterrupted over 240s or more, if you're so convinced~

    (before you call out the parser on being faulty, you can calculate smn dps with napkin math and underestimate it, and it'd still smash drg dps lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by himehime View Post
    you can calculate smn dps with napkin math and underestimate it, and it'd still smash drg dps lol
    I'd be very interested to see this. Feel free to post the napkin math, I'm not familiar with the optimal summoner rotation/priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by himehime View Post
    post video/log where you parse higher than mnk/smn uninterrupted over 240s or more, if you're so convinced~

    (before you call out the parser on being faulty, you can calculate smn dps with napkin math and underestimate it, and it'd still smash drg dps lol)
    According to another thread that guy parsed 277 DPS in a 7-man Titan HM fight while being trapped multiple times. Maybe you bring some mnk/smn numbers ...
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    using dps in titan as a baseline is silly, especially as a melee dps. lb in titan inflates your DPS by quite a bit with both apps - and there's no hard evidence for that 277 dps either. feel free to parse 277+ on dummies as a baseline though!

    this monk video has been linked to death already, but here you go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVDqzSBUhKY

    regarding summoner napkin math - there was a long post about it in one of the summoner threads; i'll try to find it later, but iirc it showed 300~ dps a summoner isn't unrealistic even with hand by hand dps calculation.
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    Last edited by himehime; 10-13-2013 at 04:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by himehime View Post
    post video/log where you parse higher than mnk/smn uninterrupted over 240s or more, if you're so convinced~(before you call out the parser on being faulty, you can calculate smn dps with napkin math and underestimate it, and it'd still smash drg dps lol)
    http://i.imgur.com/6yvIY2F.jpg


    There's a reason my FC runs 2xDRG. Lemme' know if you need tips on playing your Dragoon properly. I'll be happy to help.
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    Last edited by LongNu; 10-15-2013 at 07:10 AM.

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