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    Spyre Viseries
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    Been creeping here forever, figured I'd ask some questions after seeing the gear.

    Curious about pre-turn 5 gear as my static is still working on downing twin. Are the current pre-turn 5 BiS changed now using Relic +1 and is a BiS item set using Holy Lance remotely comparable to relic+1 gear set?
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    Last edited by Spyre1; 12-17-2013 at 12:28 AM.

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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyre1 View Post
    Been creeping here forever, figured I'd ask some questions after seeing the gear.

    Curious about pre-turn 5 gear as my static is still working on downing twin. Are the current pre-turn 5 BiS changed now using Relic +1 and is a BiS item set using Holy Lance remotely comparable to relic+1 gear set?
    That is a good point. I suppose it would depend on how highly you value crit vs. skill speed. By pure stat weight alone the Holy Lance is better, but you have to make up the 11 accuracy loss, of which there are no really good pieces with which to do so. Swapping out the earring for +16 or a neck/ring for +5/+5 loses the weight you gained from switching weapons, so the Gae Bolg+1 works out better overall thanks to its high accuracy, but not by very much.
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    tremor earrings will be better than the striking earring for pre-5
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    You'd have to make up 11 accuracy somewhere. And you'd be missing out on 26 CRIT.

    I'll be gettign the weapon either way. Extreme Modes looks super fun.
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    Maryah Bland
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    using this rotation with close to if not bis gear i only see u pulling maybe 200-250 dps pre patch.. max... i'v seen 275-300 out of dragoons pre patch seems 300 should be common post patch with the correct rotation altho the rotation in this thread seems err different fromw hat i have seen
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    Isn't the accuracy required for Turn 4 in the 480s? I heard this was the case and replaced my hero's ring with the Allagan for the accuracy. So is it 470+ or 480+?
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    Ayase Natsume
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gukster View Post
    Isn't the accuracy required for Turn 4 in the 480s? I heard this was the case and replaced my hero's ring with the Allagan for the accuracy. So is it 470+ or 480+?
    Accuracy cap for physical DPS is around ~472 or so. Turn 5 is slightly higher.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayasee View Post
    Accuracy cap for physical DPS is around ~472 or so. Turn 5 is slightly higher.
    483, correct?
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    ok now we need a new BiS list, did you guys check the new items on ffxivdb?
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    Erik Highwind
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    If anyone is interested in my calculations for determining that Skill Speed has the potential to be a better #3 stat than DET and possibly Crit, here is the hard data with summation.

    http://www.amongthespheres.com/uploa..._Stat_Calc.xls
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