Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Tilgung]

Allagan Spear doesn't have accuracy iirc and it's almost guaranteed to become BiS once it gets buffed.

[Warrlordd]

PS change seems weird. Would be better off if something would proc a CD reset on the JUMP, but the way it is now, well IDK what its gonna do. Probably not much! :P

[BrandoH]

Yay for lazy DRGing! Heavy Thrust, Impulse Drive combo, Thrust combo until time to reapply things.

[ChaozK]

Yay for lazy DRGing! Heavy Thrust, Impulse Drive combo, Thrust combo until time to reapply things.

At least put Phlebotomize in there. Its amazing.
And jumps deserve more love, especially post 2.1. No need to be lazy if the reward is that nice.

[Tanama]

The Eorzea Database has been updated to 2.1. Here's the stats of the new Holy Lance and i95 Allagan Spear:



Also, I noticed the Allagan Trousers of Maiming are shown as a blackish color now instead of white.

EDIT:

Ultima Band of Striking - Strength +11 Critical Hit Rate +10 Skill Speed +14
Ultima Choker of Striking - Strength +11 Critical Hit Rate +10 Determination +10

Tremor Earring of Striking - Strength+13 Determination+11 Critical Hit Rate+11
Inferno Bangle of Striking - Strength +13 Accuracy +16 Critical Hit Rate +11
Vortex Ring of Striking - Strength +13 Accuracy +11 Critical Hit Rate +16

[Ronzeru]

Tremor Earrings of Striking
Inferno Bangle of Striking
Vortex Ring of Striking

[Ronzeru]

Damn you got to it before me. I'm looking through the stuff now on the database. Evidently the accessories from primals are all iLvl 90. Didn't know they'd be that high.

[Erik_the_Dragoon]

I have a question about how these numbers were derived. I believe I am using the same sources:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...hould_upgrade/
http://valk.dancing-mad.com/methodol...amageMechanics

Using the formula provided (for weapon skill, not auto-atk) I made an Excel sheet, and my calculations don't concur with the weights asserted.

Yes, Weapon Damage is #1 and STR is #2. However I believe Skill Speed is better than Crit or DET if you can manage not to drain your TP.

To be continued next post ...

The following weights (provided by EasyModeX on page 22) will help you both in choosing how to spend your stat points, and when selecting which piece of gear to wear. Here are the relative stat weightings for Dragoons:

Weapon Damage: 7.54
Strength: 1
Determination: .22
Crit: 0.16
Skill Speed: .146

[Erik_the_Dragoon]

First off, Skill Speed is not accounted for in the formula. So the way I compared it was to say that an equivalent % of time must be shaved off by SS in order for it to be on par with the same % of total damage added by Crit or DET since unloading a static amount of damage at a greater frequency means you are increasing your damage in kind. Maybe that's a stretch, but I think it jives as strictly a % comparison.

Using the provided damage formula I plugged in varying values for DET and Crit, and came out to every 10 DET increasing your total damage by about 0.3%, and every 10 Crit increasing by about 0.33%. One important thing I noticed was diminishing returns. The more you add, the less bang for your buck.

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[Erik_the_Dragoon]

Now comparing SS stat changes with my weapon skill attack rate it came out showing that every 10 SS reduces your recast time by .01 seconds. At base SS this amounts to 0.4% less time spent, already better than Crit or DET. Also, as the recast time decreases that .01 seconds becomes a larger percentage of the total shaved off. So it has the opposite effect of compounding returns.

I think this makes a case for SS being the best lower tier stat. I still focus on Crit first because I don't like the fact that the formula provided takes the average, and if you can crit often enough that may still be best, but I would take SS over DET unless you do a lot of AoE.