Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[EasymodeX]

I like how you're citing endgame bosses and Mercy Stroke, without observing that Mercy Stroke can be used a half dozen times in T5 and T4 (nevermind T2), particularly on strict add DPS checks like conflags.

Bottom line: replace Bloodbath or Fracture with Mantra, not Mercy Stroke. Bloodbath is only relevant on T4 when AOE'ing adds, or for long, sustained damage intake like bigADS on T2.

[Shadow_Paw]

you two fracture is a staple not replaceable i feel. bloodbath, mantra, mercy stroke relevance all on what you have to do and the team you have to do it was mercy stroke i personaly feel is a a no go for the lvl its at but thats cause im not lvl a tank class to that for a move i am pretty sure you can use so lil in comparison to any other move you can put in its place it become a waste

[Bossmoney]

And I like how you're ignoring the point I made that neither is necessary, and this especially applies to Mercy Stroke. Great, it can be used a bunch of times in Coil. Totally never needed to and our group hasn't had any problems there.

My point is which is more useful in terms of Mantra's utility vs Mercy Stroke's added damage, and I still stand by Mantra, because at least in our group, in Coil Turn 4 and 5, it's never the DPS that's a problem. It's tanks and healers getting overwhelmed by a bad string of crits, and between Mantra and Mercy Stroke, one of these can help, the other can't.

Your point about replacing Bloodbath, now that one, maybe I can see it here. But you know what, in the end, I still place Bloodbath's UTILITY over Mercy Stroke's once a while damage. If I eat some damage, healers already know not to even bother worrying about me if the damage is moderate, Life Surge, Second Wind, Bloodbath takes care bringing me back to full most of the time. And if not, then guess what, there's a 50% chance I'm under the effect of Mantra and one throwaway heal is enough to take me back to full. What does this mean? Means the healers can not worry about it and just stay focused on healing tanks and other emergency matters. Between this and an extra attack every 90 seconds, yeah, I think this is worth more. You do realize how little damage in the grand scheme of things Mercy Stroke is adding to any individual fight right? You're not just trolling, you are aware right?

Hey, great work on this forum, really enjoyed your work so far into it, but no need to get so apprehensive just because someone is offering a differing opinion than you, though you've acted in the same petulant manner against even Ayvar, so I guess I can't say I'm really that surprised. It's a different opinion, and considering the two choices are not competing in an empirical, direct manner against each other (for instance, it's not one damage attack vs another or one utility skill vs another), it's down to preference and playstyle, and I was merely expressing MY preference and citing points to support it. But apparently it seems like everyone in the world has to agree with you.

[EasymodeX]

And I like how you're ignoring the point I made that neither is necessary,

I ignored it because it was accurate.

What I did not ignore was this:

90s cd + only can be used when target has less than 30% health left. So that means on most endgame bosses, you'll get to use it twice IF you're lucky.

This is false. L2type or l2r your own posts. Twice if you're lucky? Twice if you're lucky on Garuda.

Endgame bosses? You mean Titan where you can use it 4-5 times? ADS2 when you can use it 4 times? T4 where you can use it 4 times? Twintania where you can use it 5 times? Including strict DPS checks on short conflags?

Damn man lots of people getting really lucky.

My point is

Your point doesn't match your words.

you've acted in the same petulant

If I were acting in a petulant manner, I'd make a snide remark asking why you ignored my Fracture recommendation to swap in Mantra.

It's a different opinion,[...]I was merely expressing MY preference and citing points to support it. But apparently it seems like everyone in the world has to agree with you.

My care meter with regards to your opinion is: ||

Next time cite less wrong points to support your opinion while bashing an ability, or accept corrections to your points when they are made.

[Bossmoney]

If I were acting in a petulant manner, I'd make a snide remark asking why you ignored my Fracture recommendation to swap in Mantra.

Which you totally did!

To answer that question, I don't because I prefer Ayvar's rotation that includes Fracture. I'll await while you reiterate again as you've done numerous times in the past (even when no one is asking!) why your rotation is better, I know it excites you every time you get an opportunity to do so.

It's clear I could engage with you back and forth in this to give you more opportunities to embarrass yourself more with your childish attitude, but you've done such a great job with this one post, I'll just let that speak for itself and walk away, since you've already let the world see you for what you are, a decent theorycrafting mind whose aptitude in number crunching unfortunately does not transfer to maturity level. :-)

[EasymodeX]

Which you totally did!

You set the bar.

To answer that question, I don't because I prefer Ayvar's rotation that includes Fracture. I'll await while you reiterate again as you've done numerous times in the past (even when no one is asking!) why your rotation is better, I know it excites you every time you get an opportunity to do so.

I don't particularly care what rotation random posters use. You didn't claim that the rotation in the OP was the highest damage, so what correction needs to be made? Feel free to use whatever you want to use.

You seem to have a hard-on for me. Should I get a cease and desist order or something?

[pandabearcat]

fracture is a dps loss, and only useful if you will otherwise clip a DoT.

[Razgard]

fracture is a dps loss, and only useful if you will otherwise clip a DoT.

What do you mean by clip a DoT. Like when it says "Chaos Thrust has no effect"?

Sorry, new to the forums but I always have that happen to me and no clue why.

[Ayvar]

What do you mean by clip a DoT. Like when it says "Chaos Thrust has no effect"?

Sorry, new to the forums but I always have that happen to me and no clue why.

There's a section of the guide that explains DoT clipping in detail and methods of avoiding it.

[pandabearcat]

What do you mean by clip a DoT. Like when it says "Chaos Thrust has no effect"?

Sorry, new to the forums but I always have that happen to me and no clue why.

Yep, if your previous DoT application had a buff.