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  1. #5921
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    Leananshee Demonreach
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    Would the changes to Skill Speed might/probably be worth a consideration? If we summised that most of the new gear could potentially stack it, even the slowest of us could manage a full/modified rotation on the length of HT at least? Probably wishful thinking though, but its what popped into my head while reading the last couple of posts.

    Also, considering we're getting no TP buffs, i would gather that the two combo moves might take surprising less TP to use then CT and FT. However, i do hope there will be some help provided with invigorate/TP management...higher SS and more moves could see us needing a Bard's help more than ever...Although, it wouldn't be surprising if that's SE's line of thought: "You have it too easy keeping track on TP...We'll make you suffer for your greatness, mwahahahaha!"

    Apologies if any of this is just stupid talk :P
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  2. #5922
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Keeping track of tp isn't easy or hard though, its simply, here is a hard cap on your dps.

    Trolololol, we'll do this instead of giving you an interesting resource management, and making hitting every GCD the hallmark of a good dps, not "do you have a bard or not".

    TP and MP (for non healer) are really keeping the game down.
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  3. #5923
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    but a 4th combo w/o HT is going to be at least 400 or so, bringing your average dps way up.
    Oh i have not even a slight doubt that the new enders will be worth it, i was just advocating that instead of letting things fall off we could go the route of clipping things. For example clipping HT by 2 GCDs is slightly better than letting it fall off for 2 GCDs since it buffs your next HT.
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  4. #5924
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    I mathed it out already. If we're keeping the "same" base rotation of HIDCPTTT, but in-corperating Geirskogul and BotD + 4th tier, using "4th tier" power, which should be 400 potency +, it's a straight 15-20 PPS increase (40-50DPS), even with losing out on 2 GCDs of Disembowel + Heavy Thrust, 2.5 Ticks of Phlebotomize and 1.5 Ticks of Chaos Thrust.

    If there's also hidden traits that we don't know about, which extends HT/Disembowel duration, Dragoons DPS is going to be insane. Whatever the outcome will be, you'll be pleased with it.

    EDIT: I'm thinking of making the new DRG topic something like "Dragoons Per Second". Something "generic" which would work for 3.0-5.0 etc. Anyone else got ideas?
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    Last edited by Dervy; 06-09-2015 at 02:06 AM.

  5. #5925
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    Raul Prower
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    Do that, this thread's OP seems to be long gone.

    It's also the Great Wall of China of text by now...
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  6. #5926
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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Dragoons Per Second
    That works.
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  7. #5927
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    butnotpersecond
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  8. #5928
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    If only you could use Italics in thread title...

    I might use "How to Dragoon per second"
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    Last edited by Dervy; 06-09-2015 at 03:37 AM.

  9. #5929
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    Raul Prower
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    At least 360 Dragoons per hour.
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  10. #5930
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    We'll have a lore thread detailing Dragoon History called "Dragoons over Time"
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