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    RachaelMarie22's Avatar
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    Gaia Rein
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    I wondered this too when I was reading Kreitor's bard guide about clipping burst dots at 6sec to extend the duration of buffed dots.

    But I guess not worth it for drg
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    Raul Prower
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    So if the recommended rotation (without oGCD skills) is HT > CT combo > Phelb > FT combo, then what about burst rotation for adds?

    There are different kinds of adds, some that die so quickly you can barely pull off a FT combo, and then adds that have more health, but die before or soon after you finish the full rotation... 15 seconds of CT gone to waste = what do?

    Usually I use HT > FT combo on adds that die quickly, or HT > Phelb > FT combo on adds that take more hits, and if they aren't dead yet, I start another FT combo that I may or may not be able to finish.
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    Last edited by Jollyy5; 06-11-2015 at 11:15 PM.

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    Dervy Yakimi
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    General Rule of thumb is that HT - > Impulse Drive -> Disembowel is the preferred opener. What you do next depends on how long it will take to kill the NPC. All it takes is 4 whole GCDs, and a Chaos Thrust is worth more than a Full Thrust. (35*4)+250 = 390 vs FTs 360.

    Opening with HT always:

    3 GCDs: HT -> ID -> DIS
    4 GCDs: HT -> TTT
    5 GCDs: HT -> ID -> TTT (or TTT -> ID)
    6 GCDs: HT -> ID -> DIS -> TTT
    7 GCDs: HT -> IDC -> TTT

    Of course it isn't as black and white as this... As usually, you'll want to try set-up combos if you have additional adds to kill. For example, if you have an NPC that will die in 4GCDs, but another one afterwards, then it would be best to do HT -> ID -> DIS -> ID -> Switch add -> DIS, etc.
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Its pretty easy to check (ignoring HT modifiers for now)

    TTT does 150 + 200 + 360 = 710

    ID > DE > CT = 180 + 220 + 250 * 1.1 + 35*5 = 850.

    So even disregarding DE buff, IDC does more damage than TTT after 15 sec. In fact the breakeven point is ... 3 seconds.

    Yep. Always IDC.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Stupid question, but what's TTT? True Thrust? Not sure why it's not TVF
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    Marik Landzaat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Stupid question, but what's TTT? True Thrust? Not sure why it's not TVF
    Just shorthand for the "thrust" combo as all end in thrust.
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    Dragoons are always thrusting. The "i don't care" combo and the "triple thrust" combo.
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    Raul Prower
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    Even if it's a sweeping or slashing motions, it's a thrust.

    Always a thrust...

    Always...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    Even if it's a sweeping or slashing motions, it's a thrust.

    Always a thrust...

    Always...
    Leg Thrust
    Dragonfire Thrust
    Spineshatter Thrust
    Jump Thrust
    Feinthrust
    Piercing Thrust
    Impulse Thrust
    Disemthrust
    Phlebthrustemize
    Doom Thrust
    Ring of Thrusts
    Elusive Thrust

    Did I miss any?
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    Yjrn Eruyt
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    Auto Thrust
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