Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[pandabearcat]

I wonder if Kevee is going to play again come expac. I forgot to say high to Viridiana before, HIIIII. I remember you, which you should be impressed with because I am simply terrible with memory.

Anyway I've begun planning work on "the dps simulator 2".

I settled on C# with its delegates to handle events (why simply make events when you can throw events huehuehue) but I am not going to any coding until I take apart simcraft and see if there is something I can borrow, whether its design choices or maybe I can just use the code. I think its open source somewhere.

Also unlike the previous iteration I am actually planning on supporting a scripting language for the rotations...but I don't have the time to write a parser. So I'm hoping someone is interested. The only function you need to expose is "the action to be taken". You will be provided game variables, target variables, and player variables. So if someone is interested let me know and I will show you the planned grammar for it. I haven't finalized how its going to look yet however.

[Viridiana]

You know, it's funny you should say that. EMX's original formula subtracted 1 from the final damage, lmao.

Here are my data points for unbuffed NIN damage at 58WD, 618 AP, 366 Determination and the listed potencies, graphed as a regression each for non-critical and critical.

I forgot to say high to Viridiana before, HIIIII. I remember you, which you should be impressed with because I am simply terrible with memory.

And I never said welcome back. So welcome back!

[Dervy]

NIN damage at 58WD, 618 AP, 366 Determination

Now that's juicy. Those will be very nice to compare against my Dragoon. Thanks again!

[Viridiana]

Now that's juicy. Those will be very nice to compare against my Dragoon. Thanks again!

No problem. Also, my AA range (Sasuke Blades Zeta 2.4 Delay) was 181-200, 271-300.

Edit: Working through the Blood For Blood data now, which is going to take for effing ever. Then Poison data. . .

[Dervy]

Nah, don't worry about BFB data (unless you really want to do it). I'm going to do it all on my Dragoon. HT + FT + BFB + Highest DMGing job = winning

[Viridiana]

Nah, don't worry about BFB data (unless you really want to do it). I'm going to do it all on my Dragoon. HT + FT + BFB + Highest DMGing job = winning

I figure the more data sets we have to look at for rounding, the better?

[Dervy]

Mhmm... Yeah I suppose so. I guess we can kill two birds with one stone if I collect data on my Dragoon, matching your stats.

[Outfoxed]

Don't forget one losing 10% off one GCD of autos, one GCD/auto from the BRD if you have one.

true, but likewise, if you have another DRG (aka you're in DF, CT, and/or PF) you don't lose damage because you can rely on other DRGs to apply Disembowel for you

[Outfoxed]

so I always hear about DRGs talking about a priority system.

HT
CT combo
PB
FT combo

but delaying Phb by 3 GCD's is not worth moving up CT by 1 GCD in every single situation. notably with "buff snapshotting" you want at least 2 GCDs before applying your DoTs because they're both heavy hitters and you want to apply IR+BFB before tossing out DoTs.

if IR+BFB are down, then wouldn't a solo drg be better off applying phb first?

of course situations also change these numbers... another DRG in the party means your disembowel is largely wasted while a BRD in the party means your disembowel is valued a bit more.

so while a priority system is GREAT, it's not IDEAL in every scenario.

if you are in a party with another DRG then Phb should be your second skill in your rotation correct ?(assuming B4B/IR is down)

[whiskeybravo]

if you are in a party with another DRG then Phb should be your second skill in your rotation correct ?(assuming B4B/IR is down)

It always depends on duration of the enemies life. CT combo > FT combo

CT = 180 + 220 + 250 + (10 x 35) = 1000
FT = 150 + 200 + 360 = 710

2 ticks of CT (~6 sec) is > than FT combo. I personally also like to use ID + Dis to finish off mobs because they are higher potency than TT + VT.

So its not really a waste, multiple drgs or not. As for buff snapshotting, I have no comment lol