Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[pandabearcat]

Oh man yea I remember vit melded accessories, because mechanics would just one shot you.

Also, good for inflating your seeming ilvl =DDDD

(The only stats I optimize for are the ones that let me be a jerk)

[Jollyy5]

I did level alchemist to 50 so I could make my own potions, but shark oils is indeed darn expensive.


Edit: My DPS seems to be around 560 on a dummy without food, group buff or any potions... Is it anywhere near where it should be?

If you check what I'm wearing, you'll probably notice my equipment isn't very optimized.

[Sleigh]

I did level alchemist to 50 so I could make my own potions, but shark oils is indeed darn expensive.


Edit: My DPS seems to be around 560 on a dummy without food, group buff or any potions... Is it anywhere near where it should be?

If you check what I'm wearing, you'll probably notice my equipment isn't very optimized.

Checking your gear it says:

652 STR
501 CHR
326 DET
404 SS

Definitely pretty far from optimized but it's okay enough. I would think you'd be pretty close to 580-590 with party, food, and pot so it seems fine to me.

[seekified]

My DPS seems to be around 560 on a dummy without food, group buff or any potions... Is it anywhere near where it should be?

That's fine. I'm BiS (finally) and I do pretty much spot on 600 without food, party or potions.

[seekified]

I use poison pots all the time, they're pretty cheap on Cerberus. Got 300 or so for a couple hundred k. For me it's less about the DPS increase and more about having one more oGCD to pop so I don't get bored...

[Jollyy5]

I haven't been bothering with BiS gear since I'm just trying to power through FCoB before HW, which I'm not having a very good luck with.

I know T13 like the back of my hand after a week of trying to PF it, but I'm yet to find a group that can finish the job, I suppose all the decent players are already done with it.

[seekified]

I'm haven't been bothering with BiS gear since I'm just trying to power through FCoB before HW, which I'm not having a very good luck with.

I know T13 like the back of my hand after a week of trying to PF it, but I'm yet to find a group that can finish the job, I suppose all the decent players are already done with it.

My experience as well. My static lost two members about a month ago (WAR and SCH), and finding replacements has proven more or less impossible.

[Aiurily]

has anyone done the math on if its favorable to clip chaos thrust to refresh it with bfb? for example with 9 bfb rotation

ht->id>dis>(late bfb)>ct>phleb>ttt>ht>id>dis>ct (clips at 11s~)>bfb wears off

this wouldnt be good i think for the very first CT because you also have an xpot for that CT that won't be there on the reapplication, but later on when the rotation lines up 9gcd bfb starting with CT, i think it'd be a dps improvement to clip CT at 12s~ with another CT before bfb wears off. you get a +30% dmg buffed CT to last for 18s+30s, 48s total, which seems like it'd be better than using TTT combo, which is 60~ potency higher, but having an additional 18s of CT being buffed by BFB seems like its better on paper. im probably missing something though

[Sleigh]

I believe the better way to look at it when it comes to DoT clipping isn't the value of a DoT vs what you could do instead, but the value of a DoT's duration living out + filler vs refreshing a DoT. Otherwise you'd be making the same argument any time a DoT can be clipped enough that it'd be more potency than non-DoTs, which obviously isn't the proper way to DPS.

It'd be FT combo B4B + the remaining ticks of the old CT vs what a clipped B4B CT combo without old ticks would do, and I'm quite sure in this case refreshing early would lead to less DPS.

[pandabearcat]

Even ignoring opportunity cost of a better ability aside, refreshing early at most grants you 30% more damage.

Ballpark means if you are clipping longer than 10 seconds, its not worth it. I would go ahead and say if you're clipping more than 6 seconds, its not worth it.

You can view dots as merely a big nuke with a CD.

In other news, this is exactly the type of scenario a simulator would solve.

Also also, its definitely not worth it because the opportunity cost is a TTT combo.