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  1. #5621
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingSlayer View Post
    My mistake I thought he had onyl 375 SS for some reason. Also what I suggested was if his SS was that low, to finish off 2nd FT rotation with only B4B up then immediately re-apply HT. So there would only be 1 GCD (FT) without HT buff but would still have B4B.
    I suggested this many pages ago, it's an increase for that time frame but you lose *potential* potency on following GCDs so it's kind of a wash. I never get the second FT tho, B4B always falls off right before. 360ish skill speed
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  2. #5622
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    Light Seeker
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    Behemoth
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    Stupid question: Is it just me or did they change it so that if you miss Heavy Thrust's positional requirement you still get the buff? I've been gone 6-8 months (can't remember) and last I remember if you missed the positional you didn't get the buff.
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  3. #5623
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    Vivian Grimelka
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    Stupid question: Is it just me or did they change it so that if you miss Heavy Thrust's positional requirement you still get the buff? I've been gone 6-8 months (can't remember) and last I remember if you missed the positional you didn't get the buff.
    Ya we got buffed back in 2.45

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cf56b933b99601

    Scroll down to Battle System to see everything.

    Edit: welcome back!
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  4. #5624
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    Jegg Von'ronsenberg
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    I've done a bit of testing, and found conclusively that each buff to the same stat (eg "damage dealt") is multiplicative to all others. That is to say, stacks of a buff are the only thing that is additive, everything else is multiplicative. The test that I did was using True Thrust on a training dummy, I used it repeatedly until I felt comfortable that the minimum and maximum non-crit damage values were stable, then I applied heavy thrust, to find the min/max values under that and to confirm that it was a straight 15% increase, which it was. After that, I let heavy thrust wear off and applied B4B, doing the same for it. Then I used them together, if the bonuses were additive, then the overall bonus would have been 1 + (.15 +.3), but if they were multiplicative then the bonuses would have been (1.15 * 1.30), the damage values followed the latter bonus calculation, which means that B4B and Heavy Thrust are multiplicative on each other.
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  5. #5625
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    Yan Dere
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    if you stack adds in t10 so you can flare/aoe them together, you can hit all 4 adds with doomspike ROFL
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  6. #5626
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Or, just bring the adds over to they're on the hitbox of Imdugud. Doomspike works that way, and all you do is target Imdugud and you should hit all 4.
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  7. #5627
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    ya thats what I said

    thats how you stack for aoe/flare
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    Last edited by rickyguo; 04-18-2015 at 11:28 PM.

  8. #5628
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Oh. I thought you meant to literally "stack them on top of each other" LOL. I went full retard there.
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  9. #5629
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Oh. I thought you meant to literally "stack them on top of each other" LOL. I went full retard there.
    He now has a parse i can't even compete with.. D:
    stupid add stacking. ninja aoe is so shit i just couldnt even do it.
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  10. #5630
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
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    I thought adds in T10 gained some kind of vulnerability down buff if they stayed too close? Or was it just damage up? I never had the chance to try that out, unfortunately, so I've never paid any mind to what happens in that case.

    I think it was discussed/I read it somewhere, but for the life of me I can't remember how that ended: Phlebotomize, is there a certain timeframe for reapplying it early because of impending downtime (like "never reapply if 6 seconds or more")? Is Fracture before leaving a valid alternative to that, not taking into consideration TP issues?
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