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    Hitting 9 GCDs compared to 8 GCDs within BfB is a resultant 0.7%-1.4% dps increase.

    This is significant if you're talking about like, 10 skill points, but not really in the grand scheme of things.
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  2. 05-28-2015 10:49 PM
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    That wording seems to have caused some confusion in Japanese discussions too.

    But simplest possible explanation is it's Powerer Surgier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    But simplest possible explanation is it's Powerer Surgier.
    My understanding is that that is the actual name. As is Bloody Blood for Blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    That wording seems to have caused some confusion in Japanese discussions too.

    But simplest possible explanation is it's Powerer Surgier.
    Does that mean we're also getting Jumpier and Dragoner Firerer Divier?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mibhas View Post
    My understanding is that that is the actual name. As is Bloody Blood for Blood.
    I really hope the English Localisation team doesn't use those *exact* names...
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    Of course not. They would make it culturally cued in, just as Blood for Blood is a biblical (or obliquely Babylon 5) reference. I speak of a reference to a most enlightened film, that most succinctly encapsulates our times.

    It will be "Blood and Blooder".
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    Let's start with dragoon, since it's the job that symbolizes Heavensward. Most of the change to dragoon is contained within the new "Blood of the Dragon" action. Upon using this ability, action strength is increased for a short time. With the effect active, you can use two new abilities to lengthen the Full Thrust and Chaos Thrust combos. More importantly, the effect duration of Blood of the Dragon can be prolonged in this manner.

    The strongest of the abilities that can be used with Blood of the Dragon active is Geirskogul, which is a frontal AoE attack learned at level 60. This attack has the additional effect of shortening the duration of Blood of the Dragon. Since Blood of the Dragon does not have a very long initial duration, if you use Geirskogul just after activating it, the effect would end immediately after. However, you can first prolong the duration with the previously mentioned actions until you have enough remaining duration so that it does not immediately end.

    For dragoons fighting at level 60, by properly using Blood of the Dragon and timing other buffs to be used when the effect ends, DPS should be enhanced, so it will be like two phases to the DPS.

    After using the Blood of the Dragon, if you don't do anything to extend its duration, it will end quite quickly. You can do things like first accumulate the Full Thrust or Chaos Thrust combos to a certain point before using Blood of the Dragon, so taking all of these different things into consideration should noticeably change the course of battle.
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125687-Game-Watch-Heavensward-Role-Highlights-%28EU-Media-Event-5-18-5-21

    So, we'll be using BotD just before Chaos or Full thrust so we get the proc, straight into a 4th combo to increase its duration by X amount, then depending on the duration:

    15s+: Phlebotomize/other skills, into our second 4th combo
    10-12.5s: Skip Phlebotomize/other skills go for our second 4th combo
    Less than 10s: Keep going until we have under 2s left, blow it up in Geirskogul

    Sounds about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125687-Game-Watch-Heavensward-Role-Highlights-%28EU-Media-Event-5-18-5-21
    Very interesting link. Until now, I was somewhat disappointed by Dragoon changes. Monk Changes sounded so awesome and strong but the OP of that thread rated the Monk changes as not very gamechanging. So it would still be the same "STFU! My buff just run out!" bullshit as ever. Makes the Dragoon again a bit more attractive.
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    Do you guys know this? https://docs.google.com/document/u/1...lI1VGvrnl0/pub

    *If it's somehow against forum rules, someone please warn me :P*
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    Nope, it wouldn't be. It's just a collection of information.

    I completely missed that last "unnamed" skill. Looks like an AOE buff to be honest. Maybe we're finally getting some raid utility, at last?!
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