Phleb is a decent amount of damage for a singleton. Its cost is too high however, I wonder if they will give a trait like it costs 30 less TP, would make it much better.


Phleb is a decent amount of damage for a singleton. Its cost is too high however, I wonder if they will give a trait like it costs 30 less TP, would make it much better.



Even though there are no known traits in the works, it isn't to say they won't tinker with old skills in certain ways. I could see them changing Phlebotomize's duration to 30s or the ilk to accommodate a level 60 rotation.
We aren't getting any traits, according to that Q&A by PCgamerN on Twitch, lol. Hopefully he can clarify it a bit more on his AMA on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...sward_handson/

I'm digging and digging and still, cannot see any raid utility adition to Dragoon. Some fancy skills, yeah, maybe huge damage...
But Ninja is getting even more utility (and a minor "nerf"), and Monk getting it's "flaws" covered.
So far, I'm pretty disapointed with Dragoon news.


No traits? That's lame. Was hoping for at least 30sec Phlebotomize and maybe a buff to Invigorate seeing as MNK is getting TP back from Chakra and use Invigorate (was hoping for a recast reduction or something).
I do hope this is just a case of lacking information... After I took a closer look what each class gets in HW, it really looks to me that Monks will still continue to overshadow Dragoons.
I think it's a lack lack of information if I'm honest with you. Each job by the sounds of it is getting 6-7 new skills or so, from what we've seen thus far. We only know of 4.


Well since MNK will have Chakra and Invigorate, our endurance will drop comparatively. I guess DRG was a bit unique in that we could get a few more actions out due to 500TP Invigorate.
Also as an aside, using the various dps sets in your list Dervy, i think most of them have <390 skill speed, or am I mistaken? Is the 9 GCD during b4b overrated?

I think in the long run having more Crit/DET compensate in overall damage compared to a 9th bfb'd action. Also, SS is not that worth on dragoon, throw off rotation sometimes, yadayada, i hate it hehehe.Well since MNK will have Chakra and Invigorate, our endurance will drop comparatively. I guess DRG was a bit unique in that we could get a few more actions out due to 500TP Invigorate.
Also as an aside, using the various dps sets in your list Dervy, i think most of them have <390 skill speed, or am I mistaken? Is the 9 GCD during b4b overrated?
Perhaps one of the new skill will cost no tp, just like Inner Beast/Steel Cyclone for War
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