Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Ayvar]

I finally got some Turn 5 time last week and I have not been noticing any misses at 473 accuracy. This is odd since I've seen the 483 number (or whatever it was) everywhere and was assuming I'd be needing food to make it through.

It's possible this was just RNG so I'll actually run some parses and pay close attention this week to get a better idea (since even with 473 I probably have around a 99% chance to hit). On the flipside, I spent 3 hours in there and used a lot more than 100 abilities so I should have caught that 1% chance. I also doubt it was lack of attention either since misses are extremely obvious as a Dragoon and I was being more vigilant than usual on my rotation.

Has anyone else noticed this?

[LupusLazuli]

snip, accuracy

I've been into Turn 5 with 481 accuracy and haven't noticed any misses, so either it's just the same RNG luck as you or the cap is indeed lower than 483.

My immediate comment is that you want to stack IR and BFB.

Is it worth waiting the 20 or so seconds for B4B to come back up after IR to always pop them at the same time? I'm just wondering if there's enough multiplication between the two of them to make up for not just popping them as soon as they are available after the first usage. I would test this myself with parsing but I'm a console plebeian. :c

[AzumaKun]

snip stack b4b with IR

I see you're saying stack B4B with IR, I'm guessing this is better than doing TT > B4B > VT > LS > FT?

[EasymodeX]

No there's not enough geometric scaling to justify holding a cooldown -- only to ensure they're sync'd when you can do it easily (like at the start of the fight or after a fight reset / disengage like Titan jumps).

Edit: BFB is up for 20 / 80. Delaying it by 20s changes that "20/80 * 30%" = 7.5% damage buff into a "20/100 * 30%" = 6% damage buff.

IR gives a 7.5% increase in total damage -- minus baseline crit, which I'm ignoring for now. A 7.5% increase to BFB's 6% increase scenario is 6.45%. 7.5% > 6.45%, so maintaining BFB's original "20/80" scenario is better, and that's not counting the baseline crit which slightly devalues the crit% increase in this assessment.

[Ash_Smokespear]

Probably mentioned already somewhere but what should I be looking at regarding accuracy when starting on Turn 1? First post mentions keeping it around 470 but I've heard it varies from turn to turn?

[Iselore]

Probably mentioned already somewhere but what should I be looking at regarding accuracy when starting on Turn 1? First post mentions keeping it around 470 but I've heard it varies from turn to turn?

I'm sure Turn 1 - 4 is somewhere around the 470 mark and T5 is 480ish.

[pompey_dan]

100% accuracy on turn 5 as a dragoon after clearing it with 479 accuracy. This includes all the hours of wipes beforehand

Maybe 470 is just slightly below 100% and the sweet spot is more around 475~

[Zigkid3]

I have made a solver that finds the optimal gear set for dragoons given certain conditions. you can find the thread here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...97#post1544697

My solver has confirmed the BiS given in the OP's post.

[EasymodeX]

Umm you should always use LS on FT.

For the rest, just spam BFB and IR as soon as possible. If, for some strange reason, you end up with BFB, IR, and LS off cooldown right as you're hitting your True Thrust, which is a very strange scenario in the first place, then you should BFB before the VT then LS before the FT then IR before whatever you do next.

[AzumaKun]

Umm you should always use LS on FT.

For the rest, just spam BFB and IR as soon as possible. If, for some strange reason, you end up with BFB, IR, and LS off cooldown right as you're hitting your True Thrust, which is a very strange scenario in the first place, then you should BFB before the VT then LS before the FT then IR before whatever you do next.

That's what I was wondering, why would you want to have IR on at the same time as LS for your FT... seems like a waste