Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Dervy]

Too many variables involved to calculate the exact potency. Are you using Selene? Do you have high skillspeed? Are do you have latency? Do you clip GCDs anywhere in the rotation slightly (like I do). All of these affect the BFB placements, a lot.

We can estimate it as a 0.9375% (or *1.009375) average DPS increase of 8GCD vs 9GCD. It's a very small increase, noticeable on paper. Not in game.

[Jonnycbad]

I finally got it down but if the mob moves a centimeter or you get stunned or have to do mechanics, it goes out the window. It works best on stationary mobs that don't have threatening aoe. Even with good timing, seems hard to land this sort of thing in a real fight unless it's weak content that you're burning.

[spelley]

Stupid question: Is it just me or did they change it so that if you miss Heavy Thrust's positional requirement you still get the buff? I've been gone 6-8 months (can't remember) and last I remember if you missed the positional you didn't get the buff.

[siverstorm]

Stupid question: Is it just me or did they change it so that if you miss Heavy Thrust's positional requirement you still get the buff? I've been gone 6-8 months (can't remember) and last I remember if you missed the positional you didn't get the buff.

Ya we got buffed back in 2.45

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cf56b933b99601

Scroll down to Battle System to see everything.

Edit: welcome back!

[daman4567]

I've done a bit of testing, and found conclusively that each buff to the same stat (eg "damage dealt") is multiplicative to all others. That is to say, stacks of a buff are the only thing that is additive, everything else is multiplicative. The test that I did was using True Thrust on a training dummy, I used it repeatedly until I felt comfortable that the minimum and maximum non-crit damage values were stable, then I applied heavy thrust, to find the min/max values under that and to confirm that it was a straight 15% increase, which it was. After that, I let heavy thrust wear off and applied B4B, doing the same for it. Then I used them together, if the bonuses were additive, then the overall bonus would have been 1 + (.15 +.3), but if they were multiplicative then the bonuses would have been (1.15 * 1.30), the damage values followed the latter bonus calculation, which means that B4B and Heavy Thrust are multiplicative on each other.

[rickyguo]

if you stack adds in t10 so you can flare/aoe them together, you can hit all 4 adds with doomspike ROFL

[Dervy]

Or, just bring the adds over to they're on the hitbox of Imdugud. Doomspike works that way, and all you do is target Imdugud and you should hit all 4.

[rickyguo]

ya thats what I said

thats how you stack for aoe/flare

[Dervy]

Oh. I thought you meant to literally "stack them on top of each other" LOL. I went full retard there.

[Odowla]

Oh. I thought you meant to literally "stack them on top of each other" LOL. I went full retard there.

He now has a parse i can't even compete with.. D:
stupid add stacking. ninja aoe is so shit i just couldnt even do it.