Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Dervy]

Fucks sake I'm so pissed. I'm testing NIN, WAR, DRG, ROG, MRD & LNC atm.

wtb ilvl 100+ 50 blm + smn

EDIT: brb gunna bow down to our Japanese overlords. So far their theories are correct. Classes/jobs all fit into different "Tiers", which are all affected by different modifiers. For example, from my data so far:

Tier 1) Dragoon
Tier 2) Ninja
Tier 3) Warrior & Lancer & Marauder
Tier 4) Rogue

Though, the Japanese have this tiering system:

Tier 1) Dragoon/Bard
Tier 2) Ninja/Monk
Tier 3) Warrior & Lancer & Archer
Tier 4) Marauder & Rogue
Tier 5) Paladin
Tier 6-9 = casters.

I think the JP might of botched Marauder, or maybe I need to collect more data points. I really doubt my parses are inaccurate.

[Thendiel]

My static honestly hasn't tried pushing that hard in T13 since we bumped up against the awkward transition issue. We'll have to attempt it at some point and see if we can get the timing right. Maybe tonight.

[Viridiana]

Fucks sake I'm so pissed. I'm testing NIN, WAR, DRG, ROG, MRD & LNC atm.

wtb ilvl 100+ 50 blm + smn

Y'know the best part? In June everything changes.

I'd like to think that the formula for the different classes and different jobs would be the same, that all jobs have X formula and all classes Y. But obviously I have nothing to base that on but dreams.

Anyway, can't help you with the BLM or SMN unless you'd take a lower ilvl SMN (somewhere around 70 but with wave book).

[Dervy]

Well, I'm currently doing tests with these values:

52 WD, 365 STR/DEX, 224 DET, mainly as that's the highest possible WD of a Bard....

And then I realised there isn't a 52 Magic Damage caster weapon....

[SunnyHirose]

Since WD is probably linear, you can probably lerp it without a problem. Probably.

(I wonder how this affects caster auto-attacks lol)

[Viridiana]

Well, I'm currently doing tests with these values:

52 WD, 365 STR/DEX, 224 DET, mainly as that's the highest possible WD of a Bard....

And then I realised there isn't a 52 Magic Damage caster weapon....

Err. . .maybe I'm going crazy, but xivdb isn't showing any 52 WD weapons for the other physical jobs, either. >_>

[Tilgung]

I'm curious, what exactly is the significance in this discovery?

[Viridiana]

I'm curious, what exactly is the significance in this discovery?

Well, thus far we've been using the same damage formulas for everyone when trying to decide stat weights. If the damage formula has been wrong this whole time, then the weights themselves have also been wrong. That, and, y'know, it's nice to know what's going on behind the scenes. But mostly that first thing.

[Arthuro-Ray]

600 on t11, without a Ninja


Wonder if i could reach 620+ with an shorter clear

[Tilgung]

Well, thus far we've been using the same damage formulas for everyone when trying to decide stat weights. If the damage formula has been wrong this whole time, then the weights themselves have also been wrong. That, and, y'know, it's nice to know what's going on behind the scenes. But mostly that first thing.

Oh, cool. I assumed correctly then.