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    Sunny Hirose
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumpTruck View Post
    Thank you. I am trying to figure out what gear and melds (if crafted) I should be aiming for. Seems like, in general terms, I should go for the BIS Augmented Ironworks gear first and use crafted gear in the other slots until I get Dreadwyrm pieces.
    My personal philosophy on BiS has always been to ignore BiS and shun crafted gear (I'm poor). I always try to purchase the tomestone gear that'll give me the most DPS per tome, using whatever other gear I have. This isn't the best way to go at all (especially when 2.4 dropped, because High Allagan and Astrum stuff had way too much skill speed), but at least it's gil-friendly.

    Quote Originally Posted by DumpTruck View Post
    I read a lot of builds with the crafted boots over the augmented ironworks ones. I am wondering why as those boots have such good stats.
    Accuracy requirements is why we don't just pick the gear piece that does the most damage for the slot and call it a day; puzzling conclusions can be achieved! That said, I wouldn't trust those at the moment. The playerbase has been working off faulty stat weights for many moons now; what I just told you is experimentation I just did. So, nobody's had a chance to test/refute it nor revise what BiS would look like with crafted gear. Maybe it kicks pentamelds down a notch. Maybe up.

    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Do you guys do anything in particular to keep DPS high in the second half of the rotation? I find that in the first 20-odd seconds I parse well over 700 on dummies, and then it slowly falls to about 540 over the next 30 seconds until I can pop a buffed Full Thrust again when the rotation restarts.
    This is the famed DRG burst. We never catch up to it again. Other jobs have burst like this too, but not quite this far above the norm for 20 seconds.

    And DRG cooldowns used to not be aligned so well. They changed it because our DPS was too low. Now everything is really aligned, but it is a little more boring too.
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    Karis Angara
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    This is the famed DRG burst. We never catch up to it again. Other jobs have burst like this too, but not quite this far above the norm for 20 seconds.

    And DRG cooldowns used to not be aligned so well. They changed it because our DPS was too low. Now everything is really aligned, but it is a little more boring too.
    Indeed, I was just wondering if there's a magic trick to these crazy parses I see other than doing a good job with adds and maniacally popping off-GCD moves when they're up. ;-) I do like the reduced cooldown on Spineshatter Dive, but I wish they'd do a similar change on DFD. 180 seconds is quite long for what for many fights is just a Full Thrust with movement.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Any build that you have seen outside of either this Thread or on the "How To Train Your Dragoon" google doc, really shouldn't be considered.
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    Here ya go. http://i.imgur.com/knue3qm.png I know you are a good dps Odowla I've seen the dnt spread sheet, but trust me other good dps exist other than there. If I put my numbers on that sheet I would be on top of both your turn 13 and turn 12 with only you beating me in t10 and t11 with almost 1 minute kill time faster. Please dont doubt me :P Just ask for the parse the next time.
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    Last edited by Hakmatic; 03-30-2015 at 01:24 PM.

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    Dunncan Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Where's the Dragoon? My eyes fail to see it. And since when Dragoon need to "keep GL up"?

    PS: That April's Fool SE.
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    Mirri Weatherlight
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    There's definitely something wrong with that parse.
    The damage numbers don't add up - missing 40k~ish worth of damage. The storm doesn't register a death? Only 2 sin deaths (should be 3). 1 pain death (should be 2). 1 blood death (should be 2).
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    Quote Originally Posted by enil View Post
    There's definitely something wrong with that parse.
    The damage numbers don't add up - missing 40k~ish worth of damage. The storm doesn't register a death? Only 2 sin deaths (should be 3). 1 pain death (should be 2). 1 blood death (should be 2).
    Please look out to the deaths column. ( I looked back not sure why the storm doesnt register a death ) I can assure you its unmerged(set to 45 secs) and a kill.
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    Last edited by Hakmatic; 03-30-2015 at 01:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Please look out to the deaths column. They die more than 1 time.
    I keep looking and I keep seeing the same thing...
    Just modified it to make it more obvious.
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    http://i.imgur.com/g6NAvYW.png Dont know why it doesnt have them, i dug deeper for another one here. Now quit nit picking my shit. I never said it was an amazing parse, someone just doubted it so I linked it
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    Last edited by Hakmatic; 03-30-2015 at 02:00 PM.

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    Odowla Wetae
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    Its not that I don't want to believe you, I'm just in disbelief cause there's a lot of weird shit. Like, 3,398 damage on LB, and thats it? You must've either: sat on Lb3 the whole last phase or like.. idk.. tank Lb3'd an akhmorn or something. It's really weird..
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