Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Gardes]

And if you're suffering from 280ms, I'd seriously get WTFast or Pingzapper and change data-centers.

Haha...that 280+ ms is WITH a vpn. Without it I might as well be playing at 390+ ms AND chugging along like I'm driving a beat up car. And about the berserk thing, I've managed to pull off 9 hit at 400 but I can't even pull that off on a dummy regularly, much less with in actual combat situations (something like 1 success out of 5+ berserks).

So what's better for me then? Get more skill speed until it doesn't fall off anymore or just keep getting det and crit (and enough acc). I've been advised to keep pushing skill speed until I can 9 hit berserk because it's worth it for warriors (and I generally don't starve for TP as warrior).

[Aiurily]

I have a similar problem with warrior's berserk. People claim to be able to hit 9 actions under berserk at 360+ skill speed but I cannot hit 9 actions at 400 skill speed on a dummy in front of the fc house facing the ground

365 is the bare minimum for 9 skillspeed berserk and it's very unrealistic sometimes, because you need to have already good ping, and on top of that, open world latency is different from instance latency. in fcob it gets laggy enough that my jump clips my gcd or ir+legsweep ends up clipping into gcd, would be worse for warriors probably

but yeah, it's pretty normal. latency might have a factor, but letting the phlebotomize icon drop off is basically expected unless your skillspeed is really high or you have fey glow up

Btw Aiurily, I just noticed, you're in Xenos and Boks static/FC right?

in the same fc as bok yeah, they both raid in different groups though. cool people

[siverstorm]

in the same fc as bok yeah, they both raid in different groups though. cool people

You made me have to check if I ever got the mapping turn 3 achievement. :P

[Dunncan]

Hmmm I though it was normal to drop Phlebotomize, since it's "wrong" to reaply it before it ends. Mayme I'm doing something wrong but sometimes it just fall off when I hit the skill to reaply, most of times I get the icon without a number on it and pops to max.

[Gardes]

Hmmm I though it was normal to drop Phlebotomize, since it's "wrong" to reaply it before it ends. Mayme I'm doing something wrong but sometimes it just fall off when I hit the skill to reaply, most of times I get the icon without a number on it and pops to max.

Ah...I read stuff about dots works on server clock not on personal dot timer on stick and also read stuff about how other classes slap on dots right before it falls off (as close as you can) in case the timing of the dot timer and server tick doesn't sync and end up losing a tick in between. That kinda made sense to me so I thought it'd apply to dragoons too. But I haven't actually thought about the front end of the dot if such a thing happens and whether that would be possible (like, having a 0.5 second gap between a phleb or smaller and a server dot tick happening right in that time gap).

[Kiara]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTNX

And I'm wearing them because that's all the gear I have currently. Each time we're about to finally raid with my static, someone drops out. Fucking moogle, hate the people on this server. So unreliable, so I have no dreadwyrm/carbontwines

Thanks Dervy. Very helpful!

[SunnyHirose]

A discussion came up on Reddit (I had a question for the author of a most excellent guide that's a WIP) and curiosity got the better of me, so I scratched a couple of theorycrafting itches that didn't seem to have conclusive supporting evidence on the Internet:

- Is Disembowel 10% or a 11.1...% buff? It's 10%.
- Is Disembowel applied immediately upon usage, or when its animation ends? Despite that it forces the floating text to come up before your next skill usage, you don't get the damage increase.

The former is just a confusion that may have arisen due to the tooltip wording. I think most of us were assuming it was 10% anyway.

The latter, however, affects what a lot of us thought we were getting out of our openers. Adjust... if you can figure out how. Hm.

Hmmm I though it was normal to drop Phlebotomize, since it's "wrong" to reaply it before it ends. Mayme I'm doing something wrong but sometimes it just fall off when I hit the skill to reaply, most of times I get the icon without a number on it and pops to max.

It's an 18s DoT that's used ~20s apart. Because DRG combos are interrupted if you use other GCDs, there just isn't a good way to keep it from falling off unless you have disgraceful levels of skill speed, and I'm thinking we'd run into nasty TP issues even if we could use it whenever.

[rickyguo]

you just gotta leg sweep at the near of the gcd instead of immediately, dont think theres anything really to adjust.

[Daweism]

you just gotta leg sweep at the near of the gcd instead of immediately, dont think theres anything really to adjust.

Yeah leg sweep is super sneaky quick lol.

[SunnyHirose]

ME ROE DRG WANT PRESS BOTAN NOW

Well, ever since they changed the cooldown on Life Surge and toned down the skill speed, I've had fewer reasons to keep that on the front half of the GCD.