Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Noxotic]

It's locked. :x

[Dervy]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1067791741 It's unlocked now for your viewing pleasure and yeah you are right, it does underestimate the expected damage by 1%. I assume the formula isn't as accurate at high levels of strength/WD.

I guess that explains why my model is estimating NINs to do 594 DPS in BiS, yet that lucrezia guy is busting out 630dps in T13 lol. 594*1.1 = 653.4 bad math at 8am is bad math

And yah Ricky, that's why I always use BFB Before DE.

[Noxotic]

2 Questions. For T12 is it a DPS loss to hold DFD to hit all 4 Bennus? I use it on Bennus #1 at the start of the fight, and it comes back up around Bennus #4, but if I hold it till we get to next phase so I can hit 4 Bennu with it, is it considered a loss or should I use it on cd?

The other is similar as well, should I be holding Dragonfire Dive for the Son and Daughter or just use it on burst? Unfortunately it's a bit more difficult to run these things more than once a week for me so I can't test it out that well.

[Hakmatic]

I guess that explains why my model is estimating NINs to do 594 DPS in BiS, yet that lucrezia guy is busting out 630dps in T13 lol. 594*1.1 = 653.4.

Is that a merged or unmerged parse you saw a 630 dps? My best is 510 130 wep no nin, on monk. I feel like 630 is a little out of reach.

[Hakmatic]

My parse was unmerged.

[Dervy]

http://a.pomf.se/wsakcx.png

So I assume merged.

[ColdestHeaven]

So wait, I'm using B4B right after HT. Then Impulse+IR, Disembowel+Pot, Chaos+PS, Phlebo+Jump, True+Leg, Vorpal+LS, Full+DFD. This is assuming I've already used Spineshatter at the pull because I'm too lazy to walk. Aside from swapping IR and B4B, which I should have learned to do ages ago, is there anything I should swap?

(back in topic, Lucrezia have the benefit of having servers right next to them, reducing immensely their latency and so on - so assuming what I said is not a fairy tale, I think that's part of why your assumptions are lower than their output.)

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

So wait, I'm using B4B right after HT. Then Impulse+IR, Disembowel+Pot, Chaos+PS, Phlebo+Jump, True+Leg, Vorpal+LS, Full+DFD. This is assuming I've already used Spineshatter at the pull because I'm too lazy to walk. Aside from swapping IR and B4B, which I should have learned to do ages ago, is there anything I should swap?

(back in topic, Lucrezia have the benefit of having servers right next to them, reducing immensely their latency and so on - so assuming what I said is not a fairy tale, I think that's part of why your assumptions are lower than their output.)

My opener is:

(LegS)HT > (IR) ID > (BfB) DisemB > (PS) CT > (Jump) Phleb > (DFD) TT > (SSD) VT > (LifeS) FT > (LegS) HT.

This is because I'm always behind the tank and hit as soon as he pulls. I throw in Legsweep first because it's so quick and off GCD that I can use a HT straight after, making it not even slow down my rotation. Also, it's up straight up again at the end just before HT drops off.

[HulveinBlitz]

My opener is:

(LegS)HT > (IR) ID > (BfB) DisemB > (PS) CT > (Jump) Phleb > (DFD) TT > (SSD) VT > (LifeS) FT > (LegS) HT.

This is because I'm always behind the tank and hit as soon as he pulls. I throw in Legsweep first because it's so quick and off GCD that I can use a HT straight after, making it not even slow down my rotation. Also, it's up straight up again at the end just before HT drops off.

Think I've seen a few people do this. You do this, don't you Yanz?

But if you know exactly where the tank is going to pull, wouldn't it be better to go with the HT?

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

Think I've seen a few people do this. You do this, don't you Yanz?

But if you know exactly where the tank is going to pull, wouldn't it be better to go with the HT?

After parsing it over and over and trying different openings, this has yielded the highest DPS. LegS is offGCD so at the maximum, I sacrifice around 0.1 millisecond off my rotation since it's such a fast animation and HT hits instantly after you use it too. And the payoff is I get an extra offgcd within my opener.

I don't know the maths behind it, but it works perfectly for me.

Also question: I'm thinking of getting my DRG Zodiac. Currently I have HA and T10 is almost down. Given some time, I should be able to get IWS. Not sure if I'll get DW before Zodiac though. My main question is: How much better is the Zodiac compared to the IWS and Dreadwyrm? Is it worth getting?