Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[rickyguo]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTNX

And I'm wearing them because that's all the gear I have currently. Each time we're about to finally raid with my static, someone drops out. Fucking moogle, hate the people on this server. So unreliable, so I have no dreadwyrm/carbontwines

you should transfer to gilgamesh

[Dervy]

you should transfer to gilgamesh

How many GMT based statics/FC's are there in Gilgamesh? Heard there's a few of them. I'm gunna move server before the expansion hits so might as well start looking now.

[Kiara]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTNX

And I'm wearing them because that's all the gear I have currently. Each time we're about to finally raid with my static, someone drops out. Fucking moogle, hate the people on this server. So unreliable, so I have no dreadwyrm/carbontwines

Thanks Dervy. Very helpful!

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

Thank you for the reply. I just need to meld the last Quickarm IV and Heavens Eye III in order to finish my belt. I've sorted out my gear now, from the post before. So thank you all for the help.

Quick edit: I'm going ot be a pain, but I've still not gotten the hang of stat weights.

This is my current set up: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PEU6

Now, next week, I have a choice of two things. Go for the IWS chest piece and get Demon boots.

Or

Get IWS Boots and stick with my chest.

With IWS Chest/Demon boots, I lose 44 Crit, gain accuracy and gain around 27 Det.
With IWS boots, I gain +27 Crit, +1 Det and lose -25 Acc (Which will put me at 539 Acc, I'm currently on T10, so it should be fine for that)

What gives me a bigger gain?

[Dervy]

But you can still afford Apkallu's can't you?. They're no more than 8k each

[Lucael_Shikaree]

But you can still afford Apkallu's can't you?. They're no more than 8k each

Yes, easily, no problem with those. Anyway putting aside the Ironworks weapon at the moment, I still need to decide which Ironwork armor piece upgrade next with Carbontwine, since I have feet and legs already. Probably is going to be the body, even if I get the Wyrm one, I'll still need the accuracy on it because of det+crit Longinus.

[SunnyHirose]

Because, from a single slot perspective

A single slot perspective is nearsighted in situations where accuracy matters. Yeah it's about -1 DPS in one slot, but the massive accuracy on top of that means that you can put an equivalent amount of actual damage stats in other slots. With some classes' gear choices that might be an unrealizable potential, but for DRGs in it's hard to come up with a gearset (or any plausible BiS with an accuracy cap) where Longinus is better. Unless you're already in the last phase of T13 and not running anywhere near enrage issues, I think you'll most likely find that a carbontwine used on the spear is still a significant (if not mindblowing) upgrade once you see where accuracy can be dropped.

As for the chest... it's practically a given you'll want that upgraded. So good, and you don't really have any choice about that until you have the chest drop anyway.

Source: I've always run my gear through a solver and made sure I was maximizing DPS gain per tome / upgrade item because I was getting owned on drops week after week.

[Lucael_Shikaree]

but for DRGs in it's hard to come up with a gearset (or any plausible BiS with an accuracy cap) where Longinus is better.

Source: I've always run my gear through a solver and made sure I was maximizing DPS gain per tome / upgrade item because I was getting owned on drops week after week.

And that's exactly my point. I've tried a bunch of "simulations" on solver with Augmented Ironworks with/without possible drops and upgrade from carbon. And the results were always the same: every set came up with Ironworks Spear being on top of Longinus.
With the drops 130 I got lately things got pretty messed up at the point where to balance other stats and accuracy would require wearing Second Coil hands instead of Ironworks 120 or/and not-upgraded poetics earring instead of Wyrm. Since I already got legs and feet upgraded and in a couple days I'll get another one, I'm going to use it on the Magitek Spear. Thanks to you and Dervy for the suggestions.

[Aiurily]

damn

my nin alt at 119 is outdpsing my 126 drg main (620~ vs 600~ on benchmark parses)

hope a spear/choker drops this week

[NigelTufnel]

What should I be parsing in final coil, at i119 with the Longinus? I'm fairly new to raiding and use a rotation that's different from the one in the OP, so am sure I have plenty of room for improvement.

So far I've been 460-480 on t10, 515 on t11 before adds. Sadly I'm on ps4 so can't parse (someone in my static does though thankfully), so not sure what my full t11 parse is but I'm sure it's lower (we have a lone BLM on the cube, so sphere killers need to slow dps a good amount near end of add phase). My group is still learning t12.

I'd like to know the type of numbers I should be aiming for as I experiment with a more traditional rotation.