Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Aiurily]

Don't know if someone is really taking seriously that "BiS".

still bis in numbers, despite skillspeed being 5.742 str worth of weight, having 370 does let you get an extra hit in during BfB (which is unaccounted for in testing afaik and a sizeable dps increase imo). if there were a 4* version of black truffle risotto and if we could turn that 5 excess accuracy into any other stat, the former set would be better, but those things aren't possible right now.

[Aiurily]

As far as I know, head, gloves and belt are from coil. Where's that 410DET set that Dervy posted?

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/O7H5 is the 410 det, 0 skillspeed build
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PD79 is the bis with current weights, having 2.019 more str weighted (from skillspeed, granted)

i'll still go for the 410 det build though, since i already have all the leftside dreadwyrm pieces minus the spear.

[BristolRuss]

Thanks for the help guys. There are other pieces of left side gear I will upgrade first, but it's good to know the gloves will be an upgrade when I get to them.

Edit: Unless of course I get the Dreadwyrm gloves before then!

[Sergeant]

Also. Ive never posted in the forums before. Hello Fellow Dragoons. Nice to meet you all. I know I will learn a lot from all of you

[ExiaQuanta]

471 pages, 4000 post. Totally not gonna read all that LOL so I shall post my question.

I am currently playing a DRG as a Sub-main and just wondering what is a good optimal rotation for Trash pulls in dungeons. The rotation the OP posted, from what I've understood is for bosses or single target in general but not for trash pulls at the size of 3. At 4+ mobs I know i should just AoE.

So far I've been told to:
1) Phlebotemize everything and 1-2-3 main target
2) Heavy thrust and phlebot target 1, Chaos Thrust Combo on target 2 and 1-2-3 target 3 until target 3 dies.
3) Treat it all just like a single target and do Chaos Thrust Combo and Full thrust combo until dead and move onto next target (issue with this one is by the time Chaos thrust goes off, target is almost dead and wont get a full, Full thrust combo in)

Thanks

[Aiurily]

those tests had issues with weights because the str baseline that those weights were established based off of were strayed too far away from. increasing str increases the weight of the secondaries generally, and decreasing it will do the same thing, and at some point with crafted gear, the weights become inaccurate; that is what happened with dervy's tests when he used 9 pieces of crafted gear; his str was too low, so despite higher stat weights, the decreased value of the secondaries made the weights inaccurate for that str range

[rickyguo]

save the two twines for your alt classes and just get the crafted head and gloves instead at that point

[Dervy]

1) Remeld the helm to 18ACC/25CRT/18DET/18SS. This set-up is BiS
2) The chest piece is junk
3) You need to remeld your belt to be 19ACC/19CRT/12DET/18SS. This set-up is BiS
4) If you cannot get those melds, then you've wasted cash and they're junk.
5) You have too much accuracy. 535 is the accuracy cap for T13. T10 is 492 if i remember correctly.
6) Grind the shit out of WoD to get upgrades and Solds, yes. Get rid of that crafted gear if you cannot meld it.
7) Buy the i110 sold gloves, they're brilliant as you're over-capped on accuracy

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

1) Remeld the helm to 18ACC/25CRT/18DET/18SS. This set-up is BiS
2) The chest piece is junk
3) You need to remeld your belt to be 19ACC/19CRT/12DET/18SS. This set-up is BiS
4) If you cannot get those melds, then you've wasted cash and they're junk.
5) You have too much accuracy. 535 is the accuracy cap for T13. T10 is 492 if i remember correctly.
6) Grind the shit out of WoD to get upgrades and Solds, yes. Get rid of that crafted gear if you cannot meld it.
7) Buy the i110 sold gloves, they're brilliant as you're over-capped on accuracy

Perfect. Thank you for the reply.

Quick follow up to number 6 and 7. I'm probably going to grab the chest piece from WoD, since it'll mean I can upgrade my gear quicker than spending 825 poe on the chest (though, in hindsight, Augmented IW chest is bis, am I right?)

I know for IWS, Legs are BiS, Chest is BiS and boots are BiS too, right? So should I get those as IWS over the demon ones?

[Dervy]

Yup! Spend your Poetics on the chest, legs and boots (make sure you're accuracy capped for content however), and everything else WoD.