Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[SunnyHirose]

502 skill speed (No thanks.)

[HulveinBlitz]

502 skill speed (No thanks.)

Someone test the 502 set, hahahaha.

Thanks Derv, for the info.

[Dervy]

I'd not purchase a single thing if I were you guys, yet. Especially you Ricky.

Now, I do not know if there's something I've personally done wrong, or whether I've learned something I never previously knew. But it appears that there are calculated DPS losses going absolutely bananza with crafted gear at this point, which is odd, considering their weightings have increased. I believe the issue lies in the decrease of Strength, despite having weightings which are making up for the lack of this strength.


Set 3)
Weighting: 1045.831
DPS: 579.26581
Raid STR: 593.82020
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P9DW

Set 2)
Weighting: 1045.372
DPS: 579.8662
Raid STR: 594.55556
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P9DR

Set 1)
Weighting: 1044.577
DPS: 578.85214
Raid STR: 593.31278
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P9DL


So the weighting increased, but DPS is decreased? There must be a fall off then with primary stats somewhere, where weights are no longer relevant. It does kind of make sense, as weights are only accurate within a certain baseline, and these strengths are waay below/above the Strength baselines used. What I'll do is start recalculating a lot of things. If you've purchased a few accessories already, don't buy more until I've figured this out. But, as I previously said, Set 2) is what I'd recommend, so if you're aiming for that set, you're right on track.

EDIT: I'll continuously be editing this post to keep a log of things.

STR: 633
ACC: 536
CRT: 581
DET: 414
SS: 443
Food: Flint Caviar HQ
Weight: 1043.682
DPS: 578.64730
Raid STR: 593.31132
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P9EF (Set I'm going for)

STR: 639
ACC: 535
CRT: 554
DET: 414
SS: 442
Weight: 1042.960
DPS: 578.06148
Raid STR: 592.73217
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OX4B (Previous crafted BiS)

[Kamarada]

Hey guys! Great explanation for rotations.
I'm new and I'd like to know if it is updated for the new patch or it wouldnt necessary.

Thanks a lot!

[Dervy]

I agree. If you're going for the Belt/Helm meld combo like I will be doing, then this would be your best bet:

Set 1)
STR: 633
ACC: 536
CRT: 581
DET: 414
SS: 443
Food: Flint Caviar HQ
Weight: 1043.682
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P9EF

Hey guys! Great explanation for rotations.
I'm new and I'd like to know if it is updated for the new patch or it wouldnt necessary.

Thanks a lot!

Yes. Read everything on the front page. Then read this linked post.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2717207

Now read the rest of the 466 pages when at work/college/school.

[SunnyHirose]

I'll do the DPS calculations later but my hands are frozen over and I should be raiding lmao.

Ah just realized this, but don't forget they added 1 DET to the spear. Ariyala hasn't gotten around to updating that part just yet.

[Dervy]

Yup. I've forgotten to do the same as well. That 1 DET on the weapon won't make a difference though on gear sets :P

One thing I've started doing when giving people gear sets is only showing STR gains from the gear, and omitting STR that you get from the race/job combo since that can vary. I get 2 less STR since I'm a Seeker of the Sun in all your sets. Just a minor suggestion so people aren't all flipping out when they factor things up as a different race and their STR total is different.

Also set 3...that looks painful on TP, haha!

Edit - Actually, I only list gear values on the other stats too. Since 341 SS and CRIT are just base values at 50 for 2.5 GCD and base crit %.

The reason why I post the full stats is because of 1) Food buffs take into account base and gear stats 2) pure laziness because it's easier to just copy & paste.

[Aiurily]

1.5~ str increase for like.. 7m in melds ;_;

[rickyguo]

1.5~ str increase for like.. 7m in melds ;_;

it's like 3.6 str and it's going to be way more than 7m in melds

those rings and choker will cost you like 15mil each to meld on average at gilgamesh prices and the earrings will probably be around 7mil.

so like 52 mil for 3.6 str, ya that sounds mega sketch.

Would using the earrings only create a set with more stat weights?

[Ricdeau]

it's like 3.6 str and it's going to be way more than 7m in melds

those rings and choker will cost you like 15mil each to meld on average at gilgamesh prices and the earrings will probably be around 7mil.

so like 52 mil for 3.6 str, ya that sounds mega sketch.

Would using the earrings only create a set with more stat weights?

Yeah, anything where you have to chance DET melds and to a very slightly lesser degree CRIT is going to run you some astronomical prices unless you're really lucky. Hell my belt cost me around 6 million and I got the second DET meld on the first shot. 28 Acc IV's to get two successes. I would say shoutout for Gilgamesh...but materia prices do suck so bad here, but I imagine there's other servers as bad or even worse.