Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[SunnyHirose]

I've always been hesitant to use untraited IR on its own for whatever reason.

Using IR on cooldown will apply it to every other Chaos Thrust and one out of every three Phlebotomizes. Because of the snapshotting system, the crit chance for each tick will be locked in even after IR wears off. DoTs give you the most opportunities for IR to work its magic, and so they more reliably make use of it as a buff, rather than depending on luck.

Holding IR given perfect conditions is ultimately not beneficial because (1) it's not a big enough buff to multiply with BfB compared to how much shorter the cooldown is (2) and it throws off this synergy.

It's not obvious it's working (like it is on monk), but it's definitely there.

And while we're at it, IR or B4B first? The OP explains IR first to avoid the risk of B4B falling off before Full Thrust, but those days are long gone with the amount of SS we tend to have now.

In a dummy situation, BfB would not be falling off before Full Thrust even with no extra skill speed at all. The rotation in the OP is more "best practices" than it is some theoretical ideal you can't always attain. If you have less than perfect uptime in the first few seconds of a fight for any reason, that slight delay on BfB often proves to have exactly the benefit stated.

[Aiurily]

ir first has always lined up my bfb a lot better later in the rotation than bfb first

[Hakmatic]

To do max DPS, always keep your Cooldowns... on Cooldown.
I do PS (as the MT is about to pull), IR+B4B (right before u get into melee), HT (right as you enter melee), LS, ID, JUMP, DE, DFD, CT, SS, PHLEB.

Are you trolling us right now?

[Daweism]

Are you trolling us right now?

No? Elaborate.

[Dunncan]

No? Elaborate.

" LS, ID"

Do you use Life Surge for ID?

[Shinji_Ryukishi]

" LS, ID"

Do you use Life Surge for ID?

Leg sweep?

[Daweism]

Leg sweep?

Yeah Leg Sweep, I use Life Surge for FT, sorry about confusion.

[Spartan117]

To do max DPS, always keep your Cooldowns... on Cooldown.
I do PS (as the MT is about to pull), IR+B4B (right before u get into melee), HT (right as you enter melee), LS, ID, JUMP, DE, DFD, CT, SS, PHLEB.

Are you trolling us right now?

Because making sure your cooldowns are on cooldowns is more important than timing them on the right skills... That's a real skill to have my friend...

Like dropping IR before Vorpal, dropping B4B before Full, and using LS on a 180 potency skill instead of 360 potency skill...

Some may claim the next comment as elitist but... "Join date June 2014? Wait in line son..."

[Daweism]

Because making sure your cooldowns are on cooldowns is more important than timing them on the right skills... That's a real skill to have my friend...

Like dropping IR before Vorpal, dropping B4B before Full, and using LS on a 180 potency skill instead of 360 potency skill...

Some may claim the next comment as elitist but... "Join date June 2014? Wait in line son..."

Except B4B does not drop before FT and LS is Leg Sweep. Because join date makes you a better or worse player. Especially when what you've claimed against me is wrong by fact, you think I would let B4B drop before FT? There is nothing actually elite about your post except your attitude.

The rotation in the first post doesn't include Spineshatter Dive OR DFD, and if you follow it to the teeth, you will not be able to do ONE of them until after FT. Go crunch your numbers.

[Dervy]

I've always done BFB -> IR for two reasons.

1) You get the BFB right as you start ID, which is a PPS increase over using IR with ID, no matter which way you look at it
2) I love the increased chance of IR buffing my DFD, which I always land at the end of my opening burst. Both BFB + IR last until I use DFD.

When you go crit for 2k Full Thrust, followed by a 1.3k DFD, it gives me all kinds of giggles.