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    hm, i actually take back what i said earlier

    2.47 GCD or 365 skillspeed is the number to hit if you want to fit in 2 phlebotomize or full thrusts in one B4B duration. it's pretty tight, but you can fit in all three jumps in and still hit it. although if you miss much more than 0.01s of your gcd, you'll probably miss the window. you basically need to cast BFB in a way that ensures you can use a GCD as soon as its animation lock ends, with no waiting on the GCD to cool off (so you'd use BFB at around 0.3s left on GCD or so). a lot of the times, unless you're right on the dot, you'll probably clip your GCD by 0.1s or so in order to get this BFB timed well enough that you can get an extra FT/phlebotomize in. the 535 bis with flint caviar has 2.47 ss, which is a bit more lenient and lets you fit in all three jumps, but it's still tight even then.

    effectively that's 108 extra potency in damage every BFB cast, or about 1.35 potency per second if you get BFB off CD. the DRG bis with the flint caviar has 370 skill speed, which achieves 2.47 gcd; too bad you'll be chugging down 30k+ foods for t13 ;_;

    comparison of sets

    set 1 - 540 501 409 341
    set 2 - 535 558 358 370

    -5 acc, +57 crit, -41 det, +29 skill speed.

    trading 41 det for 57 crit and that skillspeed (which allows for extra phle/FT in bfb) seems like a tough call, especially since life surge buff has probably decreased crit weight slightly. honestly, 535 might not even be 100% confirmed for t13 flank cap; i hear a lot of 536 confirmed 100% hit rates, but no real evidence for 535.

    although if your scholar is using selene, you can disregard most of this post half the time w
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
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    That's an answer I was exactly looking for. Thanks.

    365 SS is an incredibly easy number to hit, though taking off as much SS as possible seems the difficult part really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    The difference is that HT and ID are now guaranteed without having to worry about stuns or your approach. You can just run in Jenkins-style and get all that right away.
    Haha yes when in a dungeon with a bard, I like to disembowel everything off the bat for them. Much easier now we don't have to move to rear for each one. it's pewpewpew done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RachaelMarie22 View Post
    Haha yes when in a dungeon with a bard, I like to disembowel everything off the bat for them. Much easier now we don't have to move to rear for each one. it's pewpewpew done.
    What? You severely gimp your own DPS just to put Disembowel up on multiple targets for your bard? oO

    Your Bard won't win enough DPS to compensate the DPS you are wasting as a DRG. Either multi-dot the targets on your own or go flat out AoE to speed things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    What? You severely gimp your own DPS just to put Disembowel up on multiple targets for your bard? oO

    Your Bard won't win enough DPS to compensate the DPS you are wasting as a DRG. Either multi-dot the targets on your own or go flat out AoE to speed things up.
    I mean for like a group of 3 mobs, then I plop CT on the next target along. Any bigger is aoe time. Stuff dies fast now cause of my gear so I just go lazy mode in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RachaelMarie22 View Post
    I mean for like a group of 3 mobs, then I plop CT on the next target along. Any bigger is aoe time. Stuff dies fast now cause of my gear so I just go lazy mode in dungeons.
    Even then I find it more efficient to just mulit-dot the targets or AoE them down, if they are balled up in way that you can land Doomspike on all three of them.
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    I just like helping my bard friends ^.^ they give me the precious teepee so I should give something in return hehe
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    Yup. Also depending on your Skill Speed, your Jump will either fit in between two GDCs, or you'll have to delay the usage of Jump by 1s to go after the next GDC. You never want to delay your GDC's to use your off Cooldowns.
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    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am i111 and have 452 SS. Is this fine at all? I have pretty much close to the BiS for my ilv according to ariyalla site. So wasn't sure, thats all. Thanks!
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    Yes, 452 is fine. Just make sure you're using Life Surge only on Full Thrusts, rather than rotating between FT and CT. I also noticed that the Pre-T13 BiS set I posted uses Flint Caviars, and I know a lot of you won't want to fork out 25-30k gil per food, so here it is with Black Truffle Risotto.

    Pre-T13 @ 535 Acc w/ Black Truffle Risotto
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUAY
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