Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Bossmoney]

Most believe a monk has better single target damage than dragoon

If you have one Bard in your party, your Disembowel buff will increase his damage by 15-20% which will already be slightly more than the difference between DRG & MNK dps since BRD dps is easier to maintain. If your party has 2 or more BRDs, then it becomes no contest.

[himehime]

If you have one Bard in your party, your Disembowel buff will increase his damage by 15-20% which will already be slightly more than the difference between DRG & MNK dps since BRD dps is easier to maintain. If your party has 2 or more BRDs, then it becomes no contest.

consider that 20% of a bards damage will typically come from DoTs, and that disembowel doesn't affect the DoT effect they have. it's probably a bit lower than 10% tbh - but BRDs do end up doing more dmg than DRG when disembowel is kept up (i do something like 255~ on FFXIV app, 265-270~ on logrep. a BRD with less gear than me on a dummy with disembowel up did 265-275ish (difference between our parses) with FFXIV app, 270 on logrep

[LongNu]

Most believe a monk has better single target damage than dragoon (not saying this is true or untrue just stating popular opinion I've seen) also the monk has slightly better usable utility.

This couldn't be further from the truth. DRG is by far the best single target DPS uninterrupted. What lowers their DPS is the clunky endgame mechanics where you have to constantly dodge. Monks make up for it by the utility they provide to the raid. My group runs 2x DRG just for the insane damage output we can put out in coil. Also DRG utility shouldn't really even be considered 'utility' but 'synergy'. They synergize well with bards because of the obvious debuff they provide.

[himehime]

This couldn't be further from the truth. DRG is by far the best single target DPS uninterrupted. What lowers their DPS is the clunky endgame mechanics where you have to constantly dodge. Monks make up for it by the utility they provide to the raid. My group runs 2x DRG just for the insane damage output we can put out in coil. Also DRG utility shouldn't really even be considered 'utility' but 'synergy'. They synergize well with bards because of the obvious debuff they provide.

post video/log where you parse higher than mnk/smn uninterrupted over 240s or more, if you're so convinced~

(before you call out the parser on being faulty, you can calculate smn dps with napkin math and underestimate it, and it'd still smash drg dps lol)

[EasymodeX]

If anyone's interested, I uploaded my spreadsheet: http://www.filedropper.com/ff14

The documentation in it is not complete, so it's mainly intended for folks that can randomly interpret excel formulas.

Also, any references to manual corrections for DOT clipping are obsolete; clipped DOTs are calculated automatically (but the game system invalidating a DOT overwrite due to buffs/no buffs is not handled, so don't clip or if you do, prepare to adjust your rotation manually to compensate).

[Foullacy]

spreadsheet stuff

The rotation you're using in the spreadsheet, what happened to us using Fracture?

[Lundrai]

The rotation you're using in the spreadsheet, what happened to us using Fracture?

Any rotation being used in this spreadsheet is basically experimentation. The rotation can be easily modified. Each ability on each half-GCD is a drop down box so you can build any rotation you like.

[Casterbridge]

Could I ask what kind of range of DPS an average Dragoon should be doing in Coil at the various bosses/mini bosses?

I realize it varies depending on gear and party strategy, but it would be nice to know if I'm within the ball park or possibly doing something horribly wrong.

[Arland]

Could I ask what kind of range of DPS an average Dragoon should be doing in Coil at the various bosses/mini bosses?

I realize it varies depending on gear and party strategy, but it would be nice to know if I'm within the ball park or possibly doing something horribly wrong.

Only parsed in turn 4 thus far and i was around +/- 220dps.