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    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Christmas has come early my fellow Dragoons. Loving these buffs.

    On a side note, I've noticed that the Shiva Ex weapons have been buffed to i115. I'm currently still working on my Nexus, so would the Shiva spear be better for now? My Novus is melded with 15 Acc, 30 Crit and 30 Det (couldn't afford more Crit and Det at the time - will respec in the future). I don't know what the new stats on the True Ice Spear are, but at i110 it had 44 Accuracy and 31 Crit. Is the extra weapon damage and slightly more crit worth losing 30 Det?
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    Christmas has come early my fellow Dragoons. Loving these buffs.

    On a side note, I've noticed that the Shiva Ex weapons have been buffed to i115. I'm currently still working on my Nexus, so would the Shiva spear be better for now? My Novus is melded with 15 Acc, 30 Crit and 30 Det (couldn't afford more Crit and Det at the time - will respec in the future). I don't know what the new stats on the True Ice Spear are, but at i110 it had 44 Accuracy and 31 Crit. Is the extra weapon damage and slightly more crit worth losing 30 Det?
    Yes it's worth it.
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    True Ice is better, DPS wise.
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    I think I am in need of an advice. In 2.4 I was the follower of saving most of my cooldowns for B4B, I used jump and sweep in between but it was fine as they would be up for B4B and I would have high burst and I thought it was the way to go, but now that the new patch hit it have made me think should I change my ways. I tried parsing on a dummy until my tp ran out and the numebr was 530 and I felt it was quite low as I had parsed 522 day before patch and now I tried using everything when they were up again instanly and then I parsed 552, so my fellow Dragoon could you give me some advice how I should manage my cooldowns in patch 2.45. I ask for an advice, because I play on a PS4 so I can't really do extensive parsing as I always have to ask for someone to do it for me and I can't really look at the data mch as it isn't my parse.

    When I go on a dummy, I don't use food/xpots/potent poisons / mercy stroke as this way it's easy to always repeats the same stuff on a dummy. I had party buff though


    This is my gear.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTA6

    this my character
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6485590/

    Had to post ariyala gear calculator as currently it shows my warrior gear in lodestone.



    So if someone could help or give me an advice it would be greatly appreciated.
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    1) Make sure you're hitting your positionals properly. You must hit Chaos Thrust from the Rear and Heavy Thrust from the Flank still to have increased DPS.

    2) Use your Jumps, especially "Jump" as soon as it comes off cooldown. You should always have it every other Jump is buffed by BFB. First jump will have BFB, second will be unbuffed, 3rd is buffed, 4th is unbuffed etc. It'll flow much easier. (EDIT: This should only happen if you save your buffs for bursts like I do, not optimal in any way what so ever)

    3) Always time Life Surge so it's used with your Full Thrust. Don't wait for buffs. At your Skill Speed you should have no problem achieving this.

    522 * 1.06 = 523.32. You've hit your new DPS right on the head of the nail. No need to worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    1) Make sure you're hitting your positionals properly. You must hit Chaos Thrust from the Rear and Heavy Thrust from the Flank still to have increased DPS.

    2) Use your Jumps, especially "Jump" as soon as it comes off cooldown. You should always have it every other Jump is buffed by BFB. First jump will have BFB, second will be unbuffed, 3rd is buffed, 4th is unbuffed etc. It'll flow much easier.

    3) Always time Life Surge so it's used with your Full Thrust. Don't wait for buffs. At your Skill Speed you should have no problem achieving this.

    522 * 1.06 = 523.32. You've hit your new DPS right on the head of the nail. No need to worry.
    hmm my 1st jump is with IR/BFB/PS, 2nd unbuffed, 3rd IR/PS, 4th BFB, 5th unbuffed, 6th IR/PS, 7th BFB etc.. idk if u saving PS for BFB everytime but i dont and u can get so much more buff jumps with new patch. PS always lines up while IR is on and then when BFB ready u still get a buffed jump. Works out great for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    1) ...Heavy Thrust from the Flank still to have increased DPS.
    Unless something isn't working as advertised...


    Heavy Thrust: Weapon skill direction requirements for the additional effect have been abolished.

    Edit:

    DERP! Still has the potency boost from flank. My mistake...I missed that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Is what Heavy Thrust does now.
    Yeah...caught that after I took another look at it. Just the bonus 15% to damage lost the positional.
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    Last edited by ZarethTolabain; 12-10-2014 at 04:34 AM.

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    How hard are you fully buffed FTs hitting for after patch? Cant wait to get home and try out the changes.
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    Multiply your old max Full Thrust by 1.09 and you get your new highest hit

    Quote Originally Posted by ish007xx View Post
    hmm my 1st jump is with IR/BFB/PS, 2nd unbuffed, 3rd IR/PS, 4th BFB, 5th unbuffed, 6th IR/PS, 7th BFB etc.. idk if u saving PS for BFB everytime but i dont and u can get so much more buff jumps with new patch. PS always lines up while IR is on and then when BFB ready u still get a buffed jump. Works out great for me
    Yeah, I'm kind of used to just saving everything for bursts, like it was in patch 2.0/2.1. I got used to it like that. I was also Raid Leader back then - I had to simplify and min/max my rotation so I could put out damage and still manage my raid whilst avoiding AOE's.

    But if you want to maximise your DPS, then yes, you're absolutely 100% correct with that new Jump Rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Multiply your old max Full Thrust by 1.09 and you get your new highest hit



    Yeah, I'm kind of used to just saving everything for bursts, like it was in patch 2.0/2.1. I got used to it like that. I was also Raid Leader back then - I had to simplify and min/max my rotation so I could put out damage and still manage my raid whilst avoiding AOE's.

    But if you want to maximise your DPS, then yes, you're absolutely 100% correct with that new Jump Rotation.
    yeah man this new patch is awesome, cant wait to go into coil tonight and maybe get more drops , saw a BFB FT crit for 2.1k without LS lol imagine if i used pots as well lol
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