Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Shyngo]

Will they really become BiS? Won't we have strong accuracy issues with it? I'm not the best at calculating gear sets, so i guess i'll have to wait and see someone to calculate it =).

[Andrens]

Will they really become BiS? Won't we have strong accuracy issues with it? I'm not the best at calculating gear sets, so i guess i'll have to wait and see someone to calculate it =).

Perfect timing for the personalizable Novus stats. Maybe they will add it in 2,38 aswell

[Noxotic]

Messing around with a few things, but switch BiS for 492 acc High Allagan wrists for Gloam Wrists and that'd cover it. Net loss of 2-4 DET depending on new ring's stats, but that's another 17+ CRIT. I'm sure someone could probably find a better replacement though.

[whiskeybravo]

Sounds like ur brd didn't do tp song before w3

Haha, yea. I did ask for it a couple dif times, just need like a little 10 sec burst til Invig comes back up. I don't have a ton of skill speed (449) but I may need to drop some lol.

I have a question about Dragon Kick (mnk player here) whats the trick to landing the debuff 100% of the time? Do I need more ACC? (currently 464, but looking to bump that up a tad with some materia soon)
As it stands now its hit or miss, sometimes it sticks and sometimes it doesn't.

Wrong thread but I can answer.. Note that it doesn't apply the debuff unless you are in the Opo-Opo form (or using Perfect Balance). So if you start out with DK it won't do anything, as you do not start in any "form". If you record a miss it won't let you advance forms, so it's probably not that or you would notice (even if you did miss, as long as you are in Opo-Opo form it would apply the debuff when it finally lands). Most likely you are not progressing forms properly. No form > Raptor > Coeurl > Opo-Opo > Raptor > Coeurl > Opo-Opo > etc

[whiskeybravo]

Yep you can expect the ring to become bis.

100 ring: Det+ 9, Crit + 17

110 ring: Det+ 10-11?, Crit + 19?

Good thing because t7 drops are never in my favor

Still probably going to be +9 Det.. Gloam Choker does not get a Det increase upon 110 upgrade. Also, HA slaying earring only have +9 Det. Either way +3 STR is good

[Lucael_Shikaree]

BiS wise :

1. t8 HA helm is BiS
2. t9 HA waist is BiS
3. t7 HA necklace is BIS
4. I would rather u goin for 110 Astrum gloves, 12 DET is worth 4 STR and honestly u dun need tat 25 acc from HA gloves in the full BiS 111
5. However, if ilvl is ur main concern, i would suggest helm > waist > necklace considering the stat upgrade gain

1. Pentameld "Wolfram Mask HQ" is better in stat weights than the HA.
3. According to stat weights: 6.307 Gloam Chocker vs 3.876 HA. So the chocker is better.
All of this without considering accuracy.

[FantasyForever]

Will they really become BiS? Won't we have strong accuracy issues with it? I'm not the best at calculating gear sets, so i guess i'll have to wait and see someone to calculate it =).

Considering how much det/crit is on that ring I have a feeling they might not increase it at all and just raise the STR to match HA/Gloam.
That said for 512 acc this ring is not BiS. Unless I messed up my math somewhere.

To get the set to work I had to throw on HA hands and change to HA wrists and eat deviled eggs. (I didn't bother to try and figure out a set with higher acc food)
We get 242.586(Deviled eggs) for the set with Ramuh ring and 277.483(Buttons) for the set without. (I didn't add STR into this since all equal ilvl items have the same amount of the main stat.)
Even giving the Ramuh ring two more det and two more crt still falls short of the previous setup I've been working towards.

[KidSerge]

Still probably going to be +9 Det.. Gloam Choker does not get a Det increase upon 110 upgrade. Also, HA slaying earring only have +9 Det. Either way +3 STR is good

that's a bad argument, considering the others get a stat increase. and even the choker gets a increase on skill speed.
weathered gloam ring strength 16 acc 12 det 12
gloam ring strength 18 acc 13 det 13

that being said, who knows. we'll find out soon

[whiskeybravo]

that's a bad argument, considering the others get a stat increase. and even the choker gets a increase on skill speed.
weathered gloam ring strength 16 acc 12 det 12
gloam ring strength 18 acc 13 det 13

that being said, who knows. we'll find out soon

Huh? How is that a bad argument? Those are 2 very valid points. I didn't say anything about the other stats, only Det. Gloam Choker does not get an increase in Det, and the 110 HA earrings still only have 9 Det. This is due to the 19 point allotment in other secondary stat. If it were a Gloam Ring, this is different, it doesn't have 19 secondary stat, it has 13 with the Determination weighing heavier. I can't tell you why one gets a boost and the other doesn't, I'm just looking at the various gear and saying it probably won't get a det increase. +19 crit +9 det is most likely since it's on par with the stat distributions of other 110 items.

[KidSerge]

Ah, i see what you mean after you expanded on it !