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    One needs to take into account some factors:
    Weapon
    Time elapsed (3min?)
    Food buffed?
    Party buffed?
    Potted?
    Crit percentage? (averaged over several trials?)

    If i recall correctly, with a Liberator, it should be somewhere around ~410.
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    Epoisse Monry
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    It was with a liberator and the parse was about a minute, my opening rotation. (I suppose three minutes is the accepted amount of time for a parse?)

    EDIT: at 3 minutes I had a 382. Am I doing something wrong?

    I had no food or party or pots

    and my crit rate is 410 right now, didn't have a chance to get a percentage.

    How is my burst tho?
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    Last edited by dippindots326; 09-24-2014 at 04:53 PM.

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    Yes, 3 minutes on a dummy is standard. 1000TP should last you 2 minutes + 500TP invigourate @~400TP for another 1 minute.

    I can't say for sure, but i vaguely remember that when i looked at my numbers over 3 minutes it was around ~410, but at iLvl104.
    This might not be the case for you, since i vaguely remember my accessories all being i100+, and 1str=~1dps.
    For Crit percentage, to the best of my knowledge it should be around 15-20% (from what the data tells you); anything higher is an outlier.
    Your burst is fine, i would assume it would burst for even higher if you used x-pots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllPii View Post
    1str=~1dps.
    I highly doubt this equation. If that's the case, Dragoons would be doing 550+ DPS just due to strength alone (not even accounting for weapon damage, determination or crit rating).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    I highly doubt this equation. If that's the case, Dragoons would be doing 550+ DPS just due to strength alone (not even accounting for weapon damage, determination or crit rating).
    Actually no, you're probably right. I don't really do these calculations myself.
    It's more like 2str = 1dps, after standardising everything to a value related to 1 str.
    The end result is more realistic, Gear Weight /2.
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    after 3 mins 410 sounds right, after that you should hover in and around 400 dps.
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    I wonder what I'm doing differently, because I only hit ~410 half the time. I suppose it could just be the crits lining up on those runs.
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    Miah'li Nelhah
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    I am a happy dragoon, today I got my nexus! http://i.imgur.com/Au65OUf.gif

    ...not a fan of the glow, however. I will probably glamour liberator again soon...

    Also, the sexy stats, for the curious: http://i.imgur.com/43YVJJN.png

    While I'm thinking about it, I'd like to add I could use some gearing advice. Every week since we've started clearing it, T8 refuses to drop my visor, and it's starting to get to me. I currently, for accuracy reasons, still use the Wyrm's armet in my coil set. I've been avoiding the astrum helm like the plague and the 21 accuracy drop if I were to switch to the guardian's helm (which I don't even have as a loathe st) is very hard to make up elsewhere. Should I just bite the bullet and get the astrum one? I'm afraid of wasting soldiery should my T8 helm drop shortly after investing in a rather terrible piece. Any suggestions as to what I could do about this? Or possible or sets to make up accuracy loss if I were to use the guardian helm that doesn't sacrifice too many good stats? Also, please don't tell me fully melded wolfram, I already did that with my penta-melded belt, and am still quite broke from when I did my novus so that is not happening lol. I also truly don't want to farm st for the helm either but prefer that over wasting soldiery/spending a lot of gil for a placeholder.
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    Last edited by SolarMisae; 09-25-2014 at 04:42 PM.

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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolarMisae View Post
    I'm afraid of wasting soldiery should my T8 helm drop shortly after investing in a rather terrible piece. Any suggestions as to what I could do about this?
    Level a LNC retainer and give him the gear you don't use anymore? Working for me so far. Alternatively, you could make a crafted i90 helm, or try this ACC 510 gearset
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    Last edited by Itseotle; 09-26-2014 at 02:07 AM.
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    Your best is to swap the wyrms head piece for the ST one and swap the ramuh ring for another weathered gloam ring (temporarily) and use apkallu omelets. You'll gain 1 str and bunch of det and lose a little crit, but you'll still be at 507 acc. I would see it netting out more dps, food for thought
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