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    I like the second one and the idea of getting the second FT rotation in with BFB. HT does fall off, how much of a real impact is that? It is around a 8 second time frame with out it. Is that 8 seconds super impactful? According to the numbers it is a 122 point difference favoring the second rotation.

    What about short bursts? Are things still the same or has there been a change there as well?
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    Just like we said before, its a higher potency but you lose dps in the long run. And the rotation becomes clunky. No one likes clunky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Just like we said before, its a higher potency but you lose dps in the long run. And the rotation becomes clunky. No one likes clunky.
    That's wrong, you just have to delay BfB activation a bit more but hey I'm glad to see that people realise some stuff

    Ideally you want : IR after ID, Pot after DiS, CT + BfB + Sweep , you re welcome. Just watch it with the animation lock on Ct + BfB + Sweep. Its the basic to that really fucked up opening I got yelled at edvocatin, rotation will be totally ok until you reach 2.40 ... you ll probably have to clip phlebo and then smooth sailing
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 08-26-2014 at 06:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    That's wrong, you just have to delay BfB activation a bit more but hey I'm glad to see that people realise some stuff

    Ideally you want : IR after ID, Pot after DiS, CT + BfB + Sweep , you re welcome. Just watch it with the animation lock on Ct + BfB + Sweep. Its the basic to that really fucked up opening I got yelled at edvocatin, rotation will be totally ok until you reach 2.40 ... you ll probably have to clip phlebo and then smooth sailing
    I think a bigger issue than clunky is that you're missing 30% BFB on 360 potency (chaos thrust). The ideal situation for double TVT is to pop BFB after Chaos Thrust, since BFB lasts 7 GCDs (PB, TVT, TVT).

    Not to mention that you're stuck with a decision either to refresh HT or PB (which will clip the last tick of BFB-ed X-Poted PB). I think that's what Hak described as clunky.

    I personally tested it out on a dummy yesterday, the results were in favour for my current opener (about 40 dps more). It might be that I'm not used to the new rotation.. *shrugs*

    Not dissing on your parade here btw... I've been exploring ways to keep DRG damage from dropping off badly post BFB burst, we all wanna prove we can be better than monks right?
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    I think a bigger issue than clunky is that you're missing 30% BFB on 360 potency
    You can activate it just a tad before ct activation it work too, aslong you got it with sweep otherwise yeah, your problem will occur

    I've been doin ~1100 dps with X pot + food + group on the opener, but yeah its just luck on the crits. Around 940ish without group
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 08-27-2014 at 12:28 PM.

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    Why does it have to become clunky?

    Use HT after Full Thrust and just clip HT next time it comes up, it isn't nearly as bad as slipping a DoT. And it's only for that initial burst really.
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    should i do relic weapon quest first or knock out CT entry quest?

    btw just got 50 woohoo, thanks everyone for the help, here and in game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zohawn View Post
    should i do relic weapon quest first or knock out CT entry quest?

    btw just got 50 woohoo, thanks everyone for the help, here and in game!
    Yea at least get zenith Gae Bolg, then decide if you want to commit to Novus grind or settle with Liberator. Gear up with i80 epert dungeon gear and myth/soldiery until you can run first coil and farm some gear out of there. Chest and Legs from Syrcus Tower are good i100 pieces. Beat t5, finish gearing up, run new coil
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    The second ft without ht will be over just when bfb fall off. Its just that one second animation lock you really cant afford at any cost, so ... work on it
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