Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[whiskeybravo]

I've never had issue with accuracy on dragoon and crit can make quite a significant difference in damage, but if you can't afford it I'd say skillspeed would be better than accuracy. I know a lot of people don't like ssp, but I have a ton of it and am quite fond of attacking so fast. :3

Yea, I just mean once you figure in a whole gear set, acc vs crit on weapon is only 3-4 points (stat weight) difference. Being able to sub HA boots for astrum, or astrum hands for HA to drop accuracy, etc. I went over this a while back, but the main advantage going with crit on novus is that none of the other weapons have acc, so most gear sets are already set up to accept no accuracy on weapon. You need more HA drops to make accuracy on weapon worth it, like the t9 chest xD

wish we had a guide for end game gearing. like how to get the drachen stuff etc etc

A lot of it just depends on luck from drops. The Drachen gear is from the DRG job quests, lv45 & 50. Wyrm gear is what you buy with mythology tomes, Astrum is bought with soldiery. The progression right now would be lv80 dungeon gear > first coil/ST/myth/soldiery until you get to item level 90 > more soldiery gear > Second coil.. You should be i90 minimum with i95 (turn 5, levi, animus, soldiery, etc) weapon to start turn 6.

Notable pieces for coil progression (off the top of my head): ST chest and pants, turn 4 helm and ring, turn 5 boots and wrist, Gloam ring and neck, Astrum armguards, ST belt.

[Killabye]

im wondering how you guys macro if at all, i put my power surge in with some combos so it goes off asa available

/ac life surge
/ac full thrust
/wait .5
/ac full thrust

im tank so not great at dps but this gets me some good crits or
/ac power surge
/ac dragonfire dive
/wait .5
/ac dragonfire dive

[TheKingSlayer]

im tank so not great at dps but this gets me some good crits or
/ac power surge
/ac dragonfire dive
/wait .5
/ac dragonfire dive

Powersurge doesn't stack with DFD It only works with Jump or SSD.

[Spartan117]

im wondering how you guys macro if at all, i put my power surge in with some combos so it goes off asa available

/ac life surge
/ac full thrust
/wait .5
/ac full thrust

im tank so not great at dps but this gets me some good crits or
/ac power surge
/ac dragonfire dive
/wait .5
/ac dragonfire dive

several pages before.. save LS for BFB, instead of using it whenever it's up. Makes binding LS to FT moot.

For PS depends if you wanna save it for Jump only, and as mentioned above doesn't apply to DFD.

For me I hate binding moves to macros unless i'm a bard. The responsiveness and shaving of GCD from skill speed gets thrown out of the window cause of the .5 tick of macro recognition. And generally you don't want to miss anything in your rotation cause the macro failed to recognise the next move.

[Alice_89th]

im wondering how you guys macro if at all, i put my power surge in with some combos so it goes off asa available

/ac life surge
/ac full thrust
/wait .5
/ac full thrust

I do have this macro'd, although my macro is as follows:

/micon Full Thrust
/ac Life Surge
/ac Full Thrust

And I just mash the button repeatedly (because I do that anyways).


Chione is right though, it is better saved for BFB.
Personally I tend to forget that BFB exists, so until I learn to properly incorporate that into my rotation I am keeping this macro.
(I need to spend some time with a training dummy to solidify my rotation...)

[ColdestHeaven]

im wondering how you guys macro if at all, i put my power surge in with some combos so it goes off asa available

I never really used macros for Dragoon, to be honest. I find that small pause between each command when there are more strings (example, Life surge + Full thrust), plus not having visually distinct cooldowns, disturbing. I prefer to know when I'm popping each action/cooldown, especially since some CD coming up at certain time in the fight can help memorizing pattern/timings in certain bosses.

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This is the one that I use, roughly (I usually switch B4B and IR, not sure if I should do the other way around). There seems a debate as to whether there is or not a better initial burst, but it is nowhere near "outdated".

[Synestr]

Holy cow this is an epic forum. ^.^

I haven't been on my DRG in a while due to play time restrictions and gearing up PLD, quick question which I am sure has been answered before. Rotation wise and weaving in globals. Currently I am using BFB before DoT application as I thought this was best before, namely before ID. From reading up here it looks like I should be saving BFB for LS>FT, is this correct?

Before I stopped playing DRG I was hitting 320ish as i90? Is this a good average or do I need to change some things up to get moar deeps?

Currently my rotation is set up as such:
H IDC P TTT
H TTT P IDC
H TTT P TTT

and burst on boss:
H > IR > ID > BFB > Dis > LegS > CT > PS > Phl > J > TT > SSD > VT > LS > FT > DFD

Is this too outdated? What are some tips and pointers to increase output?

Thanks in advance!

Syn

[Killabye]

ok had to think real hard what bfb stood for, they have the same timers? if so good deal, ill do that. totally didnt know ps didnt work on dd too but im a tank so waaaaaaaaaa

[melflomil]

I'm not a dragoon by heart but probably my favorite class because of dragon fire dive. I forget the name of the move that guarantees a crit hit but it doesn't work with dragon fire dive. It only crits the enemy targeted the AOE part doesn't crit which I personally think is lame.