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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenmaku View Post
    So you are saying that NOT pausing for 1.0 seconds and NOT applying CT DoT which is 200 potency is better?
    No, I'm saying that you should have used a Fracture before you used the ID - DE - CT that preceded the "I need to wait 1 second" event. As I said, if you end up in that event anyways, you can use something like a DFD that burns that 1.0 second on meaningful DPS instead of just waiting. Not optimal, but at least it mitigates half of the wasted time.

    you HAVE to eyeball, HAVE to adjust for inconsistencies, and just use your rotation the best you can in the meantime
    Those are the exceptions to the baseline rule.
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 09-27-2013 at 05:43 AM.

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    There is a lot they could stand to do with DoTs honestly.
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    Rough BIS list:

    Allagan:

    Boots, Bracelet, Earring, Leggings, Ring1, Ring2

    Myth:

    Belt, Chest, Gloves, Necklace, Weapon (Relic+1)

    Analysis based on taking the stat weights, assigning all the gear their values, then finding what [non-acc] -> [acc] gear slots lost the least value per point of acc gained. That item spread should land at 466 acc. I don't have info on how materia fits into the HQ crafted though. That may impact the Ring, in addition to the option of adding Vitality to the ring which could be useful as a separate option.

    Edit: Stats taken from xivdb.

    Edit2: Most of the slots were close. The only outliers were the Belt (get the Myth belt over Allagan for sure) and the Bracelet (use Allagan / buy Myth last). Boots also leaned towards Allagan a moderate amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Rough BIS list:

    Allagan:

    Boots, Bracelet, Earring, Leggings, Ring1, Ring2

    Myth:

    Belt, Chest, Gloves, Necklace, Weapon (Relic+1)

    Analysis based on taking the stat weights, assigning all the gear their values, then finding what [non-acc] -> [acc] gear slots lost the least value per point of acc gained. That item spread should land at 466 acc. I don't have info on how materia fits into the HQ crafted though. That may impact the Ring, in addition to the option of adding Vitality to the ring which could be useful as a separate option.

    Edit: Stats taken from xivdb.

    Edit2: Most of the slots were close. The only outliers were the Belt (get the Myth belt over Allagan for sure) and the Bracelet (use Allagan / buy Myth last). Boots also leaned towards Allagan a moderate amount.
    Does this take into account the head slots? I know the mythology one has a stupid amount of accuracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Does this take into account the head slots? I know the mythology one has a stupid amount of accuracy
    Yeah, but switching to Myth (acc) from Allagan (no acc) also loses 21 crit. The weight cost per acc gained is -0.159 which is slightly worse than the middle pieces which are around -0.14 through -0.149.

    E.g. switching from Myth Gloves (no acc) to Allagan (acc) loses 15 skill speed, which is -0.146 value per acc.

    After fiddling around a bit I made a second set which is nearly identical in overall dps stat weight (1 less out of 618), but has 4 more acc:

    A: boots, bracelet, earring, gloves, helm, leggings, ring1 (16acc)
    M: belt, chest, neck, weapon, ring
    [470 acc total]

    As opposed to the one I listed earlier:

    A: boots, bracelet, earring, helm, leggings, ring1, ring2
    M: belt, chest, gloves, neck, weapon
    [466 acc]

    Edit:

    I've ported the data to google docs. Download / export from there to manipulate and look at the gear combinations.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...LVWhiT2c#gid=0
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 09-27-2013 at 11:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    As opposed to the one I listed earlier:

    A: boots, bracelet, earring, helm, leggings, ring1, ring2
    M: belt, chest, gloves, neck, weapon
    [466 acc]
    Ah, so the original groups had the helm from the Allagan set. It was just that your first post didn't have helm anywhere at all. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    I've ported the data to google docs. Download / export from there to manipulate and look at the gear combinations.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...LVWhiT2c#gid=0
    A minor correction: The Myth bracelets give 11 accuracy and 11 determination, not 11 accuracy and 11 skill speed.
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    Last edited by Revuhlooshun; 10-05-2013 at 02:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revuhlooshun View Post
    A minor correction: The Myth bracelets give 11 accuracy and 11 determination, not 11 accuracy and 11 skill speed.
    Fixed, ty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferboten View Post
    This can very easily be solved using binary integer programming, and is doable with excel's solver
    [...]
    Let me know if you want to see the modified sheet.
    I have no idea what binary integer programming with excel's solver is; that sounds awesome. Please do send me a copy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    I've ported the data to google docs. Download / export from there to manipulate and look at the gear combinations.
    It seems like there is a lot of work being done to find out the highest scoring set of gear that meets certain accuracy requirements, but there is a better way that is both faster, and can achieve the best possible result.

    This can very easily be solved using binary integer programming, and is doable with excel's solver (but not google docs, unfortunately).
    I quickly whipped up some solver parameters for your spreadsheet, and ended up with a set that gives 470 accuracy and total weight of 616.959 compared to your 616.958. I realize that is a minuscule difference, but we're all about minuscule differences here, aren't we?

    If you swap to using both allagan rings and the 0 acc allagan necklace, you should get the same score.

    Let me know if you want to see the modified sheet.
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    Last edited by Ferboten; 10-05-2013 at 05:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Rough BIS list:

    Allagan:

    Boots, Bracelet, Earring, Leggings, Ring1, Ring2

    Myth:

    Belt, Chest, Gloves, Necklace, Weapon (Relic+1)
    How relevant is this at the current day? I'm a newbie 50lvl lancer and starting to gear up slowly (looking for ideal setup).
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