Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Hakmatic]

you couldnt reach that number if you had to bro thats why you mad

[Inkmouse]

you couldnt reach that number if you had to bro thats why you mad

Very constructive of you again. Anyways I'm done with your troll if inflating your numbers and then coming in here and posting them makes you feel like king of the internet be my guest.

Let's just stop now, guys. It's just turning into a flame.

Agreed I'm done with this specific conversation as it's turned nonconstructive and uninformative.

[ColdestHeaven]

Let's just stop now, guys. It's just turning into a flame.

[HoolieWho]

Not everyone has the same definition of DPS just like "I'll leave you guys alone now" apparently doesn't the mean the same thing to all people.

[BlackThought]

Not everyone has the same definition of DPS just like "I'll leave you guys alone now" apparently doesn't the mean the same thing to all people.

Right, and if people leave "DPS" up to interpretation, the figures are meaningless.

[Avy4576]

continued....

Therefore this takes into account your downtime bull shit that you are trying to pull because encounter dps from act takes into account the total time of the fight not just the time that he is attacking the boss. This means it is recording all damage from the time that I pull the boss till the time it is killed. I'm giving you this information so that you can know your shit before you start to throw out random information. Oh and before I forget the reason that Palmtop has a total time of 10 minutes and 11 seconds is due to the fact that he buffs everyone before the encounter starts.

[rickyguo]

Oh and before I forget the reason that Palmtop has a total time of 10 minutes and 11 seconds is due to the fact that he buffs everyone before the encounter starts.

I decided to post again cause there's a lot of flaming and misinformation here.

First of all, ACT records at the first instance of damage aka the pull. Look through your t6-t8 parses, your tank that pulled will have the highest encounter time unless someone else pulled. The only reason one of your healers can have a higher encounter time, is if they pulled or your parse is merged at some point.

You're an idiot I'm stating that he was in the battle for 9 min and 22 seconds not that he was fighting for 9 min and 22 seconds. That time includes any downtime that we incur.

The parse you shown had a total raid dps of 1717.16, unless I made a mistake adding somewhere. You can check your self by clicking on the encounter. I just added it up.

Here is one of some other group of people with total raid dps of 1773, http://puu.sh/aaiWa/f168d001b9.png

You can notice that it's merged with a total encounter time of 9:31 seconds. What you are telling people right now is that your group manages to kill the same boss like 1 minute faster than a group with a higher total dps since theirs is merged and yours is apparently not.

In comparison, bluegarter kills it in like 10:15 or something.

Some people merge their t9 parse and some run it continuously.

That was by far not our best run either, I just wanted to show you even on a bad run i do more than 330 the other guy was speaking of. I would give constructive feedback If as soon as i told my numbers i was instantly doubted. I only posted on this forum to let someone know that Dragoons can be the best in ever turn of coil, and to let someone that is mis informed know that mnk+bard is not better than drg+bard. Yes monk is 8% more damage, but if you know anything about mmos math doesnt apply in PVE, its all about the player behind that class(with the exception of t8 if no mechanics are involved). Anyways good luck happy raiding.

Math absolutely applies. You're using inductive arguments over deductive ones. You agree that monk is 8% more damage, and that bards get 7% more damage from disembowel. It then follows that mnk+bard would lead to a higher dps than drg+bard. This doesn't even count the base damage difference between DRGs and BRDs. This is more valid than the inductive argument that, since the bard and I(aka the dragoon) do more damage than the monk and the bards I know, then it must follow that drg+bard is better than monk+bard.

When you're talking about dragoons or a class in general being the best at certain content, you have to assume you're competing against a player that's maxing damage to the same extent. A great scholar can probably dutyfinder titan hm and do more dps than everyone there, does it follow then that scholars is the best dps in titan hm?

I absolutely agree that a DRG can do the best dps in every turn of coil, but that depends on running with people that are less geared or doing things sub-optimally.

[Inkmouse]

Thank you Ricky, that more or less was what i was trying to point out in the end. hopefully your explanation makes more sense to them.

[Hakmatic]

First of all, ACT records at the first instance of damage aka the pull.
The parse you shown had a total raid dps of 1717.16, unless I made a mistake adding somewhere. You can check your self by clicking on the encounter. I just added it up.Here is one of some other group of people with total raid dps of 1773, http://puu.sh/aaiWa/f168d001b9.png You can notice that it's merged with a total encounter time of 9:31 seconds. What you are telling people right now is that your group manages to kill the same boss like 1 minute faster than a group with a higher total dps since theirs is merged and yours is apparently not.
In comparison, bluegarter kills it in like 10:15 or something.

Want a merged version?

[KaldeaSahaline]

My last week parses were messing up (kept continuously reading and averaging attempts). Even though we wiped on T8 twice, it treated it as one continuous parse and averaged them (@373dps w/ i103 i110 Liberator). My teammate who also runs ACT recorded me at 426dps for that fight. I thought it was abnormally high, but he and I usually run very close to identical results in our raid. I just built a new PC so I didn't have time to mess with settings in ACT before raid time and couldn't sort out the setting issues. I am in charge of Homing & Brainjack.

Notes:
Did not run dry.
Did not LB.