Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[pompey_dan]

Am I supposed to lock on to bosses?

I was reading another thread with a monk worried about his damage output. Everyone told him to lock on to targets so his auto attacks would always hit. Do we have to do this too?

I ran Lost City this morning locking on to bosses and it seemed to help a bit... maybe? It was incredibly awkward for me hitting HT and the CT combo. I want to make sure targeting actually helps before I practice it.

It takes some getting used to but it is definitely worth doing if you use Legacy type camera movement. I don't think its as important with standard type camera movement as you can still auto attack if you move camera correctly whilst changing position but I still think it is worth doing to guarantee no auto attacks are missed.

I actually find it easier to reposition using target lock as you can stand max melee range and just use left/right to change from flank to rear. Helpfull in t9 to avopid when tank is blowing up, helpfull t8 to give your brd enough room to grab homing missle etc.

[axemtitanium]

Am I supposed to lock on to bosses?

I was reading another thread with a monk worried about his damage output. Everyone told him to lock on to targets so his auto attacks would always hit. Do we have to do this too?

I ran Lost City this morning locking on to bosses and it seemed to help a bit... maybe? It was incredibly awkward for me hitting HT and the CT combo. I want to make sure targeting actually helps before I practice it.

No, don't. If you're using Legacy movement, locking on removes the benefits of legacy controls for nothing in return. Instead, position yourself at 5'oclock or 7'oclock of the boss and use strafe left/right to hit rear/flank. The angle for auto-attack is quite generous and you'll still hit enemies you're almost 90 degrees turned away from.

[HulveinBlitz]

Yeah, I expect at least one drop to be able to compete.

[NephilimCanis]

When me and my FC was doing T5 2 weeks ago I was totally surprised as someone told me that we can't do it with my low dps output. (but did it anyway)
I always thought that my damage is great and I couldn't understand it.
I learned the RR and we went in a week later. My dps has increased but I`m still weak even though I follow the whole rotation/eat food before fight/ use dps potions when CD is off and I even got (almost) my whole sol gear.
I qoute one of the tanks "great. your damage got better, you're doing slightly more damage than me"
If that's the case, the whole purpose of drg's as dps is for nothing when I'm doing "slightly more damage" than a Pala.
I can't do anything more than that and I'm about to ditch my beloved Dragoon because I don't know that I can do better anymore....
I don't want to be weak but in this case, its not me thats weak but only the DRG.

Any suggestions on that? :/

[KidSerge]

I don't want to be weak but in this case, its not me thats weak but only the DRG.

Any suggestions on that? :/

dragoons can destroy on that fight. some of its rng with conflags, dread stuns, fireballs. but unless you are getting everything, it should be substantially more then a tank.

[NephilimCanis]

dragoons can destroy on that fight. some of its rng with conflags, dread stuns, fireballs. but unless you are getting everything, it should be substantially more then a tank.

I have no rng problems on conflags or anything or basically the whole thing. But it bothers me so much... Our Pala is very skilled and he is..in my opinion one of the most skilled/equipped people of the whole server but it still feels bad.

[HulveinBlitz]

Gotta give some more info..

What are you doing? How do you handle the 3 dragons at the start? How do you go about conflags? How do you tackle dread? Snakes? I do believe if you use the search the thread feature, there was a point where it was heavy on discussing opening on T5, how to deal with the mechanics, and gear/acc etc.

If not, please provide more details pls.

PS: DRG isn't weak.

[NephilimCanis]

Gotta give some more info..

What are you doing? How do you handle the 3 dragons at the start? How do you go about conflags? How do you tackle dread? Snakes?

The tactics run trough my vains, so no problem on that I don't ever let Heavy Thrust/phletomobize run out, 1 impulsive drive combo, 2 True Thrust(?) with phletomobize inbetween, buffs when they are available and OGC skills like Leg Sweep. Rotation goes for everything in there except for conflags, I only use true thrust combo there for max dps output in min. time

It's not about t5 but my overall damage output. I just feel weak. I had to lie if I said that I know my auto attack dps but its somewhere around 250-300 and my highest damage is about 1300.
I don't know if you can consider it weak, but it feels just bad when I'm giving out slightly more damage than a Tank, whose purpose is not do dps :/

[KidSerge]

i wish i could see your gear, shows you as a whm on the lodestone. I mean, im not sure but if he is as geared as you say, depending on the difference he could be pulling around your numbers. do you meet accuracy cap? are you using buffs in between your moves, not all at once?

[NephilimCanis]

I'm about to switch my main to WHM, sorry. I wanted to look at my gear myself and noticed that I can only see my whm stuff wich is not as close to be good as my DRG.

I never bothered with accurancy caps,tbh I can't even remember when I missed my last attack :P
And yes. I start with internal release, some skills between, and when I'm about to life surge I use bfb before.

And I didn't want to sound rude to the whole DRG Community, I know it's not weak at all but I feel weak.
I know that not knowing the mechanics will hurt the dps. I don't speak on every fight in my matter but only on t5 since it's the only time my dps was called 'weak'