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    Question:

    For whatever reason I was thinking that if power surge was increased to 80 sec CD it would allow us to use Jump on CD instead of waiting for PS. (I always tend to wait for PS to use Jump) After running a 320 sec hypothetical, it looks like there is actually no need to change the CD. From what I can see, over the 320 sec period, it's about 400 more potency to use Jump on CD as it is now, you still use Jump every 40 and PS every 80 (as if the CD as 80 instead of 60).

    Do you guys use Jump on CD instead of waiting for PS? I think I'm going to just start using on CD, as it seems to be a damage boost (400 potency/320 sec) vs waiting for PS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Question:

    Do you guys use Jump on CD instead of waiting for PS? I think I'm going to just start using on CD, as it seems to be a damage boost (400 potency/320 sec) vs waiting for PS.
    Lost now, but at one point in this thread either Ayvar, Dervy, EasymodeX, or one of the other theorycrafters/mathmaticians did a calcuation showing you lose overall dps waiting to sync.
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    Last edited by mythicrose; 05-30-2014 at 04:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Question:

    For whatever reason I was thinking that if power surge was increased to 80 sec CD it would allow us to use Jump on CD instead of waiting for PS. (I always tend to wait for PS to use Jump) After running a 320 sec hypothetical, it looks like there is actually no need to change the CD. From what I can see, over the 320 sec period, it's about 400 more potency to use Jump on CD as it is now, you still use Jump every 40 and PS every 80 (as if the CD as 80 instead of 60).

    Do you guys use Jump on CD instead of waiting for PS? I think I'm going to just start using on CD, as it seems to be a damage boost (400 potency/320 sec) vs waiting for PS.
    I bang it into one button.
    If power surge is up it will rock that first.
    use Jump whenever its ready.

    /macroicon "Jump"
    /ac "Power Surge" <me>
    /ac "Jump" <t>
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    Isn't it a DPS loss to use power surge then jump back to back? I do GCD > power surge > GCD > Jump
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Isn't it a DPS loss to use power surge then jump back to back? I do GCD > power surge > GCD > Jump
    That's right, you should continue doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Isn't it a DPS loss to use power surge then jump back to back? I do GCD > power surge > GCD > Jump
    What Logo was saying is that you can combine them into one macro, but you still stagger them. I do this myself as well. I keep Power Surge on my bar still, out of macro, so I can keep an eye on its cooldown. If Power Surge is up:

    Macro > Global > Macro will result in Power Surge > Global > Jump. Its the only macro I use on DRG, just because its so convenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    What Logo was saying is that you can combine them into one macro, but you still stagger them. I do this myself as well. I keep Power Surge on my bar still, out of macro, so I can keep an eye on its cooldown. If Power Surge is up:

    Macro > Global > Macro will result in Power Surge > Global > Jump. Its the only macro I use on DRG, just because its so convenient.
    Exactly
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    I have always used Jump on CD, and followed up off CD of Power Surge with Spineshatter
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    It's pretty self-explanatory: the faster you use cooldowns, the faster you get them back, the more damage you do. I use PS for whatever jump's available.
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    Yea.. Not quite sure why I was doing it like that, habit I guess. I've realized that there is another part of my rotation that needed correction so I've been working on that too. Just finding all these little things after getting back into dragoon.
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