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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    The cuirass already has 34 accuracy on it so you can't add to it. Try to get to 23 Det then meld straight crit. Would have to be all IV materia to cap. $$$
    Yea thats what I mean, huge dollar signs lol. Det IV and Crit IV are 100%, but then you would still have room for 3 Crit IVs, which on my server run for about 90k+ each, and at less than 15% chance of success that seams VERY expensive. When you look at it, your basically paying that much money for 34 acc. So I guess it depends on what items you currently have if its worth it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    The cuirass already has 34 accuracy on it so you can't add to it. Try to get to 23 Det then meld straight crit. Would have to be all IV materia to cap. $$$
    Yea thats what I mean, huge dollar signs lol. Det IV and Crit IV are 100%, but then you would still have room for 3 Crit IVs, which on my server run for about 90k+ each, and at less than 15% chance of success that seems VERY expensive. When you look at it, your basically paying that much money for 34 acc. So I guess it depends on what items you currently have if its worth it or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    That's what I did, sorta.
    Ah nice, not to grasp at straws, but you wasted the last meld. A crit 1 materia would have netted you 0.404 weight as opposed to the 0.325 weight of 1 DET. You could have even squeezed a Grade II materia in that slot with relative ease. But your stat weight is only 0.6874 higher than mine, so we are basically even. If you could convert that excess 14 accuracy into something (cap is 510 right?) then the gap would get larger. But thats the point I'm trying to make. The crafted body is only good if you can make use of the ACC on it. At least in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    I'm really not so sure its worth it.
    Neither the high allagan spear or liberator have accuracy on it. Accuracy does become an issue (for me at least) if I want to continue using Buttons over Deviled Eggs. The wolfram cuirass will have a little lower accuracy over the astrum chestpiece but will have a higher dps potential. For me, it'll work nicely as I continue to mix n' match gear to suit the situation.

    Side note : At least spirit binding for the materia is a decent way to level my chocobo.
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    Yeah I was kind of at wit's end by then.
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    I'm personally a little lost on upgrades for dragoon at this point. One of our old raid members came back recently and is going to main war tank, which I have been doing for the last 3 or 4 months. Now that we have a good chunk of people through t5 I might be going back to Dragoon for 2nd coil, but I need to upgrade a bit since SMN has been my main dps class since we had several other capable dragoons.

    I'd ultimately like the get the Levi spear, but until then the Allagan spear is what I'm after since t5 is almost laughably easy now. My weakest piece at the moment is the allagan pants, but I need the accuracy on those especially if I get the Allagan spear. Levi spear would help more, then I could upgrade the pants and keep the Wyrm's mail for now. The Levi spear + w. Astrum hose seems to be a much better trade off then Allagan spear + w. Astrum mail. Right now I'm at 486 accuracy which is close to perfect for 2nd coil, I can drop 10-15 but really don't want to drop ~40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Right now I'm at 486 accuracy which is close to perfect for 2nd coil, I can drop 10-15 but really don't want to drop ~40.
    You need around 472 flank/rear for T6 and T7 (but I'm still working on it) and the High Allagan pieces you're going to take in the process will boost your accuracy. What about Gae Bolg Animus? It will increase your dps and give you a huge boost on accuracy that will help you a lot in the first second coil turns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucael_Shikaree View Post
    You need around 472 flank/rear for T6 and T7 (but I'm still working on it) and the High Allagan pieces you're going to take in the process will boost your accuracy. What about Gae Bolg Animus? It will increase your dps and give you a huge boost on accuracy that will help you a lot in the first second coil turns.
    Animus isn't a terrible upgrade, 'cept I'm super far behind on that. Only got 3 atmas so far lol

    Only 472 for the first two, eh? I've been seeing 493 everywhere so that's what I was aiming for.

    Hopefully Levi unlocked in DF won't be terrible.. I rarely see groups up and when I do they are always farm parties, I've got the basics down, been to the blue orbs a couple of times but no clear, so I don't want to be "that guy" joining the farm party lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Hopefully Levi unlocked in DF won't be terrible.. I rarely see groups up and when I do they are always farm parties, I've got the basics down, been to the blue orbs a couple of times but no clear, so I don't want to be "that guy" joining the farm party lol
    Dashes follow the tail. If you're fighting the tail in the NE corner, the first dash will be from the N or E side of the deck, the second dash will be from the S or W side of the deck. This means you only have to focus one corner at a time, makes recognizing dashes very easy. Beyond that just focus on not getting splashed to death. Get your clear by being very careful and worry about maximizing DPS once you've got the mechanics down. I always fake it til I make it (albeit usually very quickly) in farm parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    Dashes follow the tail. If you're fighting the tail in the NE corner, the first dash will be from the N or E side of the deck, the second dash will be from the S or W side of the deck. This means you only have to focus one corner at a time, makes recognizing dashes very easy. Beyond that just focus on not getting splashed to death. Get your clear by being very careful and worry about maximizing DPS once you've got the mechanics down. I always fake it til I make it (albeit usually very quickly) in farm parties.
    Somebody had mentioned something like that but I didn't quite follow what they were saying. Thanks Jet, I'll start paying more attention to that xD
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    Oh well, about the Cuirass... it all depends from play style and attitude as a player. If you have the patience to farm, then go for it. If you're not, no big deal: we know that the pentameld chest is not "necessary" at all. About the financial crisis, I've never been rich and when I started the belt, body and head my budget was like 600k. With one Spiritbond set (I was forced to buy pieces, since as you can see I have not crafting job levelled) you can get a Materia IV (det, chr and acc are in the same price range on my server 120-200k, sometimes I got two in the same set), or do full or half money to buy one. Plus the myth items helped a bit. I think, anyway, it depends from your server prices and economy that can really make the difference in this scenario.
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