Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Dervy]

Yup. His site rounds-up numbers. That's why I stopped using it the second I noticed this error.

[pompey_dan]

Yup. His site rounds-up numbers. That's why I stopped using it the second I noticed this error.

Nice spot ^^ hopefully he can fix this issue with rounding up on food and it will be a really helpful tool.

[Anorex]

I don't particularly agree with the b.i.s. setup located on the front page. 495 accuracy is too low to deal with the Golems, especially for Dragoon when taking into account the spike damage. Dragoon almost always (95%) has first hate on one of the three Golems that appears in the waves. Unless people plan to miss a lot, I don't think this is a good setup. I have completed T9 at 508 accuracy with about 1-2% miss rate on Golems, so I imagine it's significantly higher at 495. Personally, the b.i.s setup I calculated is:

Weapon: High Allagan Spear
Head: High Allagan Headgear of Maiming
Body: High Allagan Cuirass
Gloves: High Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming
Legs: High Allagan Trousers of Maiming
Feet: Astrum Sabatons
Waist: High Allagan Waist of Maiming
Neck: High Allagan Choker of Striking
Wrist: High Allagan Bracelets of Striking
Ring1: Gloam Ring
Ring2: High Allagan Ring of Striking

Pre-Food: 509 accuracy, 460 crit, 310 det, and 436 skill speed
HQ Buttons: 509 accuracy, 469.2 crit, 325.5 det, and 436 skill speed after.

I find this much more sustainable, considering making up a lost buffed full thrust is a lot if it happens.

(and yes this is not my main account).

[Dervy]

If you're so concerned about that 1-2% miss, why don't you then aim for the 515 accuracy cap instead and build your set around that?

I mean you're gimping yourself either way, if your primary concern is to hit 100% when tanking a golem for a few seconds.

In which case, it should be:

High Allagan Spear
High Allagan Headgear of Maiming
Suit of Astrum Mail
Astrum Armguards
High Allagan Belt of Maiming
Astrum Hose
Astrum Sabatons
High Allagan Choker of Slaying
High Allagan Earrings of Slaying
Gloam Wristlets
Gloam Ring
High Allagan Ring of Slaying
Buttons in Blanket HQ

ACC: 515
CRIT: 517
DET: 302
SS: 412

[Anorex]

Considering the Golem phase is timed I don't think a complete 100% accuracy amount is mandatory, but it should be strictly 1% miss rate or lower. At 495 it's definitely has to be at least 3%+. It's more of a find the sweet spot where you can take a little risk while not taking so much that makes it unmanageable, which in my opinion 495 is unmanageable.

[Dervy]

I mean, the difference between 509-515 accuracy is 0.5 extra DPS (Approx.). A miss would be a bigger burden during Golems than it would to have that 0.5 extra DPS.

But, it does also make a lot of sense :P That's exactly why I aimed for 463-465 for Turn 5, because of the 20s-ish we'll be attacking Asclepius from the Front.

[whiskeybravo]

Whoa, I just remembered something.. I think it was PArcher, a while back ago, wondering if you can equip both the Gloam ring and Weathered Gloam ring.. Yes, you can. I ran across a tank wearing the Noct and Weathered Noct ring at the same time.

[Dervy]

Okay. KittyKY has fixed Ariyala, and it's actually found a set for 493 acc, with more weight than KrystalF's set in OP lol.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MK8H

I'd still go for KrystalF's set however for 2 reasons:

1) The difference between the two sets is 0.094 weight (lol)
2) KrystalF's set has 12 DET, which is basically more RAW damage than the set that Ariyala found.

Edit: Oops.. lol

Not sure what I was thinking.. That is a little strange, I know Spell speed isn't as highly weighted for SMN as BLM, but seems like the Int (from High Allagan) would make a bigger difference

It's the same way how Wolfram Headgear > High Allagan/Astrum Helm for us DRG's. It's also because the SS Weight for a SMN is under 0.1 (it's around 0.094)

[PArcher]

Okay. KittyKY has fixed Ariyala, and it's actually found a set for 493 acc, with more weight than KrystalF's set in OP lol.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MK8H

I'd still go for KrystalF's set however for 2 reasons:

1) The difference between the two sets is 0.094 weight (lol)
2) KrystalF's set has 12 DET, which is basically more RAW damage than the set that Ariyala found.

Good...just bought the boots and don't want them to go to waste >.< I'm OK with "wasting" the body and pants for some reason, likely because I'm probably not going to see the body for a loooong time...and I've been using it a lot, so by the time I get it I'll have used it enough that it was "worth" it. Pants a similar reason, though once we clear T8 I can get them at any time too. Likely going to Sand upgrade Feet first (well, after Liberator), then Hands, then figure out what next, if anything (since the BiS build only requires 2 Sands.)

[Ariyala]

Okay. KittyKY has fixed Ariyala, and it's actually found a set for 493 acc, with more weight than KrystalF's set in OP lol.

Just call me Ariyala or Ari.. KittyKy is just a random reddit name I once chose that I can not edit anymore now '^^ And on a sidenode... "she" not "he"

KrystalF's set has 12 DET, which is basically more RAW damage than the set that Ariyala found.

This makes sense, tho... doesn't that also mean the weightings are a bit off?


But thanks again for telling me about the rounding-issue

Cheers,
Ari