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  1. #2391
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
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    Interesting. Were you predominately at the rear, or flank for most of those T8 attempts? If you were mainly at the Rear and only going to the flank for HT, that could slightly skew the results, but interesting nonetheless.

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    1stly, especially for yourself who's still new and gearing up to i90, I WOULD NOT gear for BiS. I would get any upgrade you can possibly get your hands on. And ilvl upgrade is always better, no matter whatever the stats are (in most cases...) Get those Gloves, bracelets, especially your earrings upgraded and put your Myth Boots on. Those i60 boots are trash, and no where near as good as i90 Myth Boots.

    The order of stats should always follow Weapon Damage > Strength > Accuracy Requirements > Determination > Crit > Skill Speed, for basic gearing up that is.
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    Fellow dragoons, I know I'm late to the party with this. But if training a chocobo. What's the best build for us?
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  3. #2393
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    Heals or Tank. Both do the same job. I prefer healing though.
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  4. #2394
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Heals or Tank. Both do the same job. I prefer healing though.
    Mine is healing too.

    Kinda do regret not making it a DPS, though...that DRG barding is so nice...
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  5. #2395
    Interesting. Were you predominately at the rear, or flank for most of those T8 attempts? If you were mainly at the Rear and only going to the flank for HT, that could slightly skew the results, but interesting nonetheless.
    Why on earth would you be in front of anything in turn 8 ? the only thing i can think of is a DiS straight when the Dread spawn by beein in front of just before it's pulled, but other than that ... you ll be all the time behind the back of the avatar, of course exception done with ht beein re applied.

    And same logic regardin the Dread position, it ll be right on the avatar's feet anyway ... well i mean, his back will be right in front of you
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  6. #2396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Why on earth would you be in front of anything in turn 8 ? the only thing i can think of is a DiS straight when the Dread spawn by beein in front of just before it's pulled, but other than that ... you ll be all the time behind the back of the avatar, of course exception done with ht beein re applied.

    And same logic regardin the Dread position, it ll be right on the avatar's feet anyway ... well i mean, his back will be right in front of you
    Well, being mostly at the back just tells us a potential caster (rear) accuracy cap...we need the flank cap. It could be the flank is that low, but without staying there for a long time we can't be sure (its possible you just never missed any HTs because you got good RNG on them). HT is an important skill for us, after all...we don't want any chance at missing them.
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  7. #2397
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Why on earth would you be in front of anything in turn 8 ? the only thing i can think of is a DiS straight when the Dread spawn by beein in front of just before it's pulled, but other than that ... you ll be all the time behind the back of the avatar, of course exception done with ht beein re applied.

    And same logic regardin the Dread position, it ll be right on the avatar's feet anyway ... well i mean, his back will be right in front of you
    I never said front what so ever. I said Flank, the side. If you're only ever at the rear, like what PArcher posted, you're only telling us the Rear Accuracy requirements, with a few lucky hits on the Flank with HT.

    What I was asking was if you were mainly on the side, the flank, during your tests. It doesn't matter if we're getting 100% accuracy at sub-480 accuracy on the rear, when we have abilities that need to be struck from the Flank, EG Heavy Thrust, or a Monks Dragon Kick/Twin Snakes etc.
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    and when was it confirmed the flank/rear requeriments are different? it sounds pretty stupid that for one skill you gotta have a higher cap, i feel like its kinda like front/not front. also i've done t8 with 485 and some of t9 without realizing any miss so i don't think 495 is needed aswell, now i am using 500+ because of crafted gear though.
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  9. #2399
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    Ehhh that 15% damage buff is very significant. If you miss it, you either have to carry your rotation without HT, or you have to Re-HT. Either way it'ss a DPS loss, the latter being the least, something you don't want for T8/9.

    I've heard a lot of mixed stories about the accuracy needed for T8, which is why I'm interested in knowing what it really is. I cannot test as my Static isn't on T8 yet
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    i am just wondering if there's a flank accuracy at all or if it's the same as rear, it just makes no sense that you have the option to only miss heavy thrusts and i didnt notice a miss only on it with any accuracy. i know HT is a pretty big deal
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