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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    I'm not trying to make money here, im wondering why there is only a 1 point crit and determination difference between a lvl 47 recipe and a 2 star recipe...
    I wonder if they will change these 2* recipes with the next patch to be viable
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    Acc is overrated. I run coil 1-5 each week with 460 acc. During T5 Twins acc is lower than the first mini dragons and snakes. My bard just throws one rain of death for each of those and i dont miss. Same as our bard he runs 443 with food. We both miss 1 time in Turn 5 same we would miss if we was at 482 and it must be an autoattack that misses cause i never notice and combo or jump miss. I will be running with even lower acc this week just to test how low i can really go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Acc is overrated. I run coil 1-5 each week with 460 acc. During T5 Twins acc is lower than the first mini dragons and snakes. My bard just throws one rain of death for each of those and i dont miss. Same as our bard he runs 443 with food. We both miss 1 time in Turn 5 same we would miss if we was at 482 and it must be an autoattack that misses cause i never notice and combo or jump miss. I will be running with even lower acc this week just to test how low i can really go.
    You are aware of these posts, yes?: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Reborn/page144

    According to that, the required Accuracy to hit from Flank or Behind is 458

    So yes, Melee players should aim for 460 or thereabouts:

    Turn 5 http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

    Pre T5 with Extremes http://pastie.org/8614681#1

    Pre-T5 without Extremes http://pastie.org/private/u93gaqcronr969rbbmh8q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exa_Jyn View Post
    You are aware of these posts, yes?: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Reborn/page144

    According to that, the required Accuracy to hit from Flank or Behind is 458

    So yes, Melee players should aim for 460 or thereabouts:

    Turn 5 http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

    Pre T5 with Extremes http://pastie.org/8614681#1

    Pre-T5 without Extremes http://pastie.org/private/u93gaqcronr969rbbmh8q
    Im simply stating that you dont need 470+ acc even if the flank theory was not accurate.
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    A lot of us have always aimed for 663-ish before we knew about this "Different accuracy for different positions" stuff. And "Flank theory" is accurate, 100%. I have a lot of numbers proving this. Just collecting more data for different jobs atm. I won't have numbers for Twintania, but accuracy does vary from the position you're at.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 02-20-2014 at 08:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    A lot of us have always aimed for 663-ish before we knew about this "Different accuracy for different positions" stuff. And "Flank theory" is accurate, 100%. I have a lot of numbers proving this. Just collecting more data for different jobs atm. I won't have numbers for Twintania, but accuracy does vary from the position you're at.
    <3 Dervy <3<3 Dervy <3<3 Dervy <3<3 Dervy <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    A lot of us have always aimed for 663-ish before we knew about this "Different accuracy for different positions" stuff. And "Flank theory" is accurate, 100%. I have a lot of numbers proving this. Just collecting more data for different jobs atm. I won't have numbers for Twintania, but accuracy does vary from the position you're at.
    You are a credit to these forums, ive been wanting to do this but just havent the time or jobs leveled to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    <3 Dervy <3<3 Dervy <3<3 Dervy <3<3 Dervy <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manticzeus View Post
    You are a credit to these forums, ive been wanting to do this but just havent the time or jobs leveled to do this.
    Unfortunately, parsers are broken So I'll have to wait until they're back up so my friend can record my hits/misses... Hopefully they're updated this weekend
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    So has anybody noticed controller hotbar swapping on ps3 has been semi broken lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    So has anybody noticed controller hotbar swapping on ps3 has been semi broken lately?
    It apparently is, and I assume that's what the maintenance soon is about...

    But I didn't notice it playing last night, since I use the L2+R2 hotbar "switch" thing (that works perfectly still). I highly recommend using it if you only use 2 hotbars in combat; its really quick and "flows" well.
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