Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[SasakiNori]

Anyone knows if the flank/rear acc numbers apply to bards as well?

[Sleigh]

Anyone knows if the flank/rear acc numbers apply to bards as well?

From some limited testing, yes, it does. A BRD with 341 ACC missed a small % to the front, and none from behind, as per the melee tests.

[Zhi]

What accuracy are you guys testing right now? I can record my turn 5 to see

[ColdestHeaven]

Thanks for the advice EMX, PArcher and whiskey =D I'll see if anything changes in the next runs. In the meantime I'm practising on dummies to get a feel of the rotation. GCD are fine, now I need to weave oGCD regularly. I still tunnel view a little and forget about them to keep track of the rotation.

At least the rotation itself seems now less complicated than what I had thought when I first saw this thread: minor skill - combo - minor skill - combo, where minor skill is either Phlebotomize or Heavy thrust (which one of them depends on which one is down/about to go down and change), and combo is either IDC (Chaos thrust is not up or about to go down) or TTT (Chaos thrust). The main difference from what I did before is that I often used Heavy thrust and Phlebotomize together and I clipped accidentally either of them and Chaos thrust. This rotation should minimize the chances of this happening, I guess.

[Zhi]

I rolled blm instead for for t4-5 but didn't have any misses on t1 and 2 at 466 acc

[Ihm]

Sorry for being a tad ignorant, how is the testing going for the directional accuracy requirements, and do they seem to apply to everything? Such as, it seemed (Prior to the directional accuracy revelations) that CT and Ex primals have lower accuracy requirements where as Coil turns had higher, is this still the case? And what are the current accuracy requirements or are they not fully worked out yet? I fished through the past 20 pages and wasn't really finding the answers to my questions.

[Zhi]

Sorry for being a tad ignorant, how is the testing going for the directional accuracy requirements, and do they seem to apply to everything? Such as, it seemed (Prior to the directional accuracy revelations) that CT and Ex primals have lower accuracy requirements where as Coil turns had higher, is this still the case? And what are the current accuracy requirements or are they not fully worked out yet? I fished through the past 20 pages and wasn't really finding the answers to my questions.

I think it's more or less confirmed and they're grabbing numbers

[Migosha]

Sorry for being a tad ignorant, how is the testing going for the directional accuracy requirements, and do they seem to apply to everything? Such as, it seemed (Prior to the directional accuracy revelations) that CT and Ex primals have lower accuracy requirements where as Coil turns had higher, is this still the case? And what are the current accuracy requirements or are they not fully worked out yet? I fished through the past 20 pages and wasn't really finding the answers to my questions.

Yes CT and Primals have much lower ACC requirments. Not sure if with 0 ACC on your equipment you would be able to get a miss on those places. Maybe if you were attacking from the front, but then you should ask yourself what you're doing at that place. Before the boss reminds you that he does have a cleave for that kind of circumstances

[EasymodeX]

Titan has a variety of spellcast animations where he is facing the group. In addition, gaols and egis are often attacked from the front.

[Migosha]

Titan has a variety of spellcast animations where he is facing the group. In addition, gaols and egis are often attacked from the front.

I think you still got the point, don't you? Not that it will never happen that you may be facing your target for 2-3 GCD here and there during a fight (Titan is a bit special for that, turning around pretty often, Garuda and Ifrit does turn around from time to time too even if it's less frequently) but you won't gear yourself to reach the "hit from face" accuracy. Giving a hit from face is very situational. If it's not you're prolly doing something wrong as you shouldn't be facing the target for an extended time on most fights and anyway most bosses will punish you hardly for trying that with a cleave that will reminds you that dps aren't welcome where the tank stands.
And the main idea being that CT/Primals have much lower ACC requirment than T1-5 as you definitly don't need a 450+ ACC to hit in CT.

For our AoEs it's not really that the ACC's cap is higher but more that you have a high chance that at least one of the mob isn't showing you its back/flank but its head instead. Unless the tank(s) managed to turn them all in the same direction on you placed yourself behind the whole pack.

EDIT :

How does holy lance weigh against GB zenith? Has anyone tested it?

For no-acc needed content (CT/Primals) Holy Lance is a bit above GB Zenith. Total value of the 3 highest weapons should be:
GB Zenith : 426.232
Holy Lance : 427.072
Allangan Spear : 446.084
As you can see it's not a big upgrade, but still Holy lance is slighly better (you should gain something like 0.3-0.4 dps increase). For places where ACC does count (T1-5) you will definitly take the GB Zenith.